So you said You don't like France because it's weak?

So @Klitcher If you ever like debating, go ahead explain to me why do you think France is weak?

 

Because Klitcher is ignorant, and does not know history, apparently.

 

I don't like France cause you're from there.

 

This I can't debate.

 

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/3a/Soldier_DominationSpy06.wav?t=20100625233110

 

I don't participate in debates on forums. Most of my opinion is bias, I said this.

 

Want me to tell you why! First; France has NEVER ruled half of the world! When did they rule the USA?!?!? They only ruled a little fraction of South America seeing that that most of the South America was under Spain's control and Portugal controlling Brazil and others. And ruling Africa didn't really count because it was carved up and you never really ruled your African colonies seeing that everyone had colonies in Africa. Yea and Asia you mean your Vietnam, France begged for help and then the USA helped out then France withdrew from the war in Vietnam and NATO because "they were tired of fighting" a war they started and left it to the US. They surrendered in WW1 and WW2 and can never fight wars by themselves. The reason the media see's France as weak is because they haven't contributed anything big compared to other first-world countries such as USA, UK, Germany, Russia, Italy, ETC. Yes today France is a formidible country but if a country like France went one on one with a country like the USA or UK they would surrender at the thought of war. Hell Germany could make France surrender today. Just media picking on what they see as the weakest first-world country. France hasn't proved itself in the modern world yet.


Source: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110724005536AAfDKVh

 

1. The French Empire was once the biggest empire in the world under Napoleon Bonaparte. They technically ruled the whole Europe (Spain, Italy, Germany, Austria, Warsaw and Naples) Oh, and they were still no USA back then. see map: here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Europe_1812_map_en.png)

2. Seems I know more about your own story than you know about it yourself, France has played a role key helping you guys get your independence, we helped with money, we sent an army to serve under George Washington, we fought Britain in sea and land. Do you recall?
British Army surrendering to French officer: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Yorktown80.JPG
French fleet destroying Britain navy: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/BattleOfVirginiaCapes.jpg

3. Here's an actual map of colonization in current USA and Canada: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...-en.svg/2000px-Nouvelle-France_map-en.svg.png

4. Once again, here's another map of the colonization in Africa: http://exhibitions.nypl.org/africanaage/maps/african-col-1914.jpg
You were saying?

5. This part was funny I swear, France won his "Indochine" war, they even set up in place a republican government. But some people didn't like that government, so after few years those people were the national front, those are the guys you fought and lost your war against. So tehcnically two different wars, two different periods, two different armies WE WON and you lost. Sorry for bringing it that way.

6. Do you even?
Ah man, France won the first world war, in fact that was the main cause they were a second world war.
Also, France was the first country to really face the German Army, like Hitler just paraded in Poland and Belgium but when they came to France there was an actual war and battles, we lost yes but even USA would lose if they were there because no one was really prepared for a war at that time. And again, USA was miles away, and had 5 years to prepare for a war we had no warnings, also USA didn't win the war against Hitler, Hitler lost the war by going on multiple fronts that was his mistake not USA's glory, the URSS has more credits on Reich failure than USA.

7. And this is what we call "la salade niçoise"
Really man? USA would never see the light if France wasn't there and you're talking about contribution? United kingdom lost more wars against France than against any other country in the world. And try to engrave this in your mind or heart like I do, French people never surrender, we fight, we succumb, se struggle, but we never surrender!
Also you brought Italy as a first-world country, I suggest you go read a bit about Italy haha

 

And then you decided to attack Russia in the winter.

 

In 1803 the French ruled about as much of the modern-day USA as the USA did. See: Louisiana Purchase.

France was active in the bombing campaign against Libya (support rebellion against Ghadafi), they are currently active in the bombing campaign against ISIL, and they've recently fought terrorists on the ground in Mali. Their navy has also been an active participant in anti-piracy actions off the coast of Somalia.

The Germans, who have basically been pacifist since 1945, have received a failing grade for their military readiness as required by NATO:

http://news.yahoo.com/ex-general-germany-needs-defense-spending-074839835.html

Actually, France and the UK combined were deadlocked with Germany in WWI until fresh, energetic reinforcements from the USA arrived.

The French army's performance when the blitz arrived in WWII was appalling. The French actually had more divisions at their disposal than the Germans did, and the advantage of home turf and short supply lines. But they deployed those troops very badly, and high command basically broke down the moment the engagement began. And that doesn't even begin to describe the many mistakes made prior to the invasion.

"Germany is now fortifying the Rhine zone, or is about to fortify it. The creation of a line of forts opposite to the French frontier will enable the German troops to be economized on that line, and will enable the main forces to swing around through Belgium and Holland." - Winston Churchill, April 1936

Apparently, none of the decision makers in France noticed. As Prime Minister, Churchill personally exhorted the French to move forward and occupy a defensive position in Holland, and was prepared to move his own men in concert with them. Yet another disastrous failure for the French in WWII. It was, militarily speaking, France's worst blunder since Agincourt.

The Reich was not the only nation fighting on two fronts, the only difference is, the US won on both of its fronts. Also, the Soviets would have fallen if not for massive donations of materials from the US, truck transports in particular. As it is, we know the Nazis got to the outskirts of Moscow. Because of the road/rail systems in place (ALL lines leading in and out), the fall of Moscow would have fractured the country, and a nationally-coordinated resistance would have been impossible. There were no lines of communication between, say, Stalingrad and Vladivostok which did not lead through Moscow.

 

France is so weak its disgusting. Ayy for USA!!!

 

Oh my god. I literally cited yahoo answers as a source and you dummies still took me seriously. I'll make it easier for you. This is a JOKE. This thread never was a serious debate and it likely will not be. Thanks though.

 

Read: Most of my opinion is uninformed.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 7, 2016, Original Post Date: Feb 7, 2016 ---

Despite the image of France being weaker in this century, quite the opposite has been the norm the previous 1000+ years. From the Franks, to Charlemagne, France had(has) been the predominate force in the Western World for a very long time. France, today, has no need for the military strength of it's ancestors, because it exists in a different world.

The US isn't going to attack France
Germany isn't going to attack France
No other country in the world is going to attack France.

When looking at France's military strength today, one should look at the European Union's combine might, because there will not be an incident of war against France that would not provoke the rest of that alliance to join in.

 

No, I'm very informed and aware of the contributions and power the French have had. It's just when I'm talking about my country that I've lived in my whole life that I have unwavering patriotism for, it tends to get a little biased. Do not call me ignorant for simply not wanting to participate.

 

Tbh I am not well-versed in history or anything of the sort, but this makes you look like quite the jerk
Just because you like your country doesn't mean its better or that others are worse simply cause they aren't you


If I interpretated this wrong ignore me lol

 

Just because you're describing another country as a weak one doesn't make you patriot, adding to that you're totally wrong. Oh sorry my friend but you're giving a very bad idea about "American" people in general which goes right against what a patriot should be doing!

 

The only reason no one is gonna attack France is cause it would start WW III

 

Please

 

And because there's no reason to¿¿

 

I don't like France because it's cars are broken.