Do plants respond to pain and stimulation?

No

 

^^ Simple as that, No need to watch the video

 

How so, the plants are showing some kind of reaction to atleast stimulation. So something must be there, or there would not have been an electric reading.

If you think otherwise, rather than just saying "no" explain your self. Explain why the Ether managed to eliminate the plants reaction to the touch when it was reacting before.

 

Pshhh... You think I actually watched the video?

 

Then kindly get off of this thread, this is a debate thread. If you are not here for an educated conversation post elsewhere.

 

The plants would require a central nervous system. It seems to be likely they are just reqcong to being touched or something like that in defense.

 

Yes, they would. Which raises questions as to how the Ether actually managed to have an effect on the plant.

The same plant that would close its leave in response to touch by the metal object did not respond after they were given ether.

Ether stops nerve fibers from functioning by blocking nerve transmission, this is why ether was the first anesthetic used in the medical industry aside from clobbering the person over the head Three Stooges style.

 

So...ether's a gas? If it is, it could have been absorbed into the plant through stomata in the same manner as carbon dioxide, so probably would have reacted with water and been sent through the plant for photosynthesis. Maybe the ether contains some chemical that, when absorbed into the leaf, stops the impulse to close the leaves? Or maybe it only works on that plant, and this is just a Texas Sharpshooter fallacy. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-texas-sharpshooter

 

They poured ether onto the soil and gave the plant time to absorb it in both what could be assumed as gas form or it's liquid state as well. Depending on the temperature of the room it was used in.

Would that not be the point of an anesthetic though? However you see them putting the ether into the soil as you would water. And the senses are clearly dulled.

Please do not use that site to state half baked ideas on fallacies. Frankly that site is quite inaccurate as it only lists a couple of them when there are around 100 different fallacies.

And this piece of data was not just shown in the one situation, when you watch the video further. Electrodes are hooked up to a plant to measure any kind of reaction. And one was definately found when the plant was being burned with a lighter.

 

That doesn't mean that the ones it does list are inaccurate though...

 

Yes, but none of those fallacies were commited. They do not get into enough detail nor are there enough of them on that site, it covers only the most basic ones.

But the data shown in the video through experimentation seems to be good evidence that in the very least plants respond to outside stimulation and most likely pain as well. As the electrical signals were indicating when a fire was set to the plant.

 

Of course. However, we'd also have to show that plants have something... negative attached to pain. That is, it caused more than a physical reaction. And we don't see anything we recognize as a consciousness in plants, though we don't know enough to rule it out.

 

In order to be considered living, the organism has to respond to stimuli. If you rotate the flowers away from the sun, in say a window. In a few hours they will be rotated back towards the window.