Major SkyBlock Revision

A couple months ago, I discovered a suggestion for SkyBlock that I felt would have a large positive impact on MeepCraft, and when discussing it with Fangdragon we decided to make a power-point to explain. I've shared this link with multiple staff such as Cooleysworld and Reggles (when they were both still Admins), who both said they'd share it with Fuzzlr.

Pretty typically, not trying to be rude, but I got little to no response, updates or feedback on it since then. Not satisfied with my results and still wanting to help out the server, I'm taking yet another stab in the dark at getting community support in knowing this suggestion can go places.

To be totally honest I'm nervous about making a forum thread about this because too often people reply or vote without fully understanding what it is they're voting on. So, in it's simplest form, here's a google presentation covering most everything you might want to know - with a handful of community reviews at the end.

*Be sure to hit "Present" in that upper right corner for best effect! c;
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1j6YlEZ_6w5_Li_n3cCiRaYciIuhU3NKcsQ014M2KpZI/edit?usp=sharing
I encourage you all to reply to this with any questions, comments or concerns you might have. Thanks!

Yours Truly ~ Tae

@Fangdragon1998 @Ace @isbg. @EnDer BunNieS @Goozzy @Chaase5 @Smshortstack @LlamaofEvil @WarriorHeart @smkorpi9900 @Jess_4Ds @Window_Licker1 @StillHateNames @giraffeboy09 @DBLOSEVN

 

Honestly with this addition I feel the skyblock server wouldn't really be skyblock anymore, it would be a prison server with a private realm everyone has a really high risk of falling off of. In short, this would convert skyblock into a really nice prison server.

EDIT: Honestly, everyone who likes the idea should just root for the addition of a prison server. Skyblock is not, and is not supposed to be, everybody's thing.

-1

 

Wow tae. Nice job on this one.
Skyblock is boring. I try and make it fun for myself, but its just not working.
I feel i could start my won skyblock for fun to decorate, because all these new blocks would encourage that. I get bored cause ive got nothing to do due to the fact ive got no town, and siting around reading global can be very boring.
i do think that there is a bit more rare minerals in there then there should be. Maybe our good man db0 can change that *hint*
Overall, +1

 

i do not support this idea I'm a huge sky block player i spend more then 90% of my time on meepcraft in sky block and the reason i like sky block is its a challenge to do stuff like sky block is about u start on a small island in the sky and u have to complete these challenges just by using the little resources u have and with mines u are basically taking that challenge away cuz cobble gens will be useless , the prices for diamonds , gold , emeralds will drop a lot so they will be a lot cheaper and easier to get and that will break the sky block economy , I've spent alone probably over 500k on emeralds , diamonds , gold and if u add in mines where u can just go and mine the diamonds then i feel like all that money just went to waste. also emeralds are the fastest way to level up your island and 1 emerald block is around 1.25 levels and it will be a lot easier to get emeralds if we make the mines so peoples island level will go sky rocketing so high and it will be completely broken

 

+1 for the Mine idea. I love it on other servers and think it'd be a great addition

 

I like, I like! +1

 

The only problem I have with this is your font choices in the presentation.
+1, I support!

 

Half the people that +1 it don't play sb. Everyone who -1's it plays it. Not to be rude but don't comment if you haven't played Skyblock. Skyblock is meant to be challenging, having mines would uproot the whole reason of Skyblock.
So -1 <3

 

+1 on Smshortstacks people only put +1 cuz there either friends with Tae and Tae docent even play sky block -1 on this forum post

 

I played Skyblock for 2 years straight before the owner of that server had a personality change, and it quickly crashed and burned to the ground. Hehe. ( That server is where I fished out @Miku - he would know.) That's when I decided to look for something new and found MeepCraft, on which I have played SkyBlock but not as much as I used to due to the severity of the change and lack of interesting things in Meep's skyblock vs the one I'm proposing/used to play on.

I don't believe that anybody +1'ed an idea that would have a great impact on a game they enjoy just because they're friends with me. I'd like to think my friends would be honest and tell me if they didn't like something I were suggesting and discuss what they don't like about it..

Edit; Everybody I tagged in the first post I have verified do play SkyBlock and I did discuss this with everybody in a group forum discussion prior, if anybody has any questions please just ask, and I'd be happy to help!

I appreciate everybody's reviews, and while the biggest cons are that this would also suggest a reset of SkyBlock (Of which not too many consistently play at this point in time anyways) and that the "challenge" of original SkyBlock will be compromised, the Pros would still greatly outweigh and have a positive effect on MeepCraft as a whole.

 

I have played Skyblock and still do at times, since the new update came out. I'll play it even more if this suggestion is accepted.

 

There should be changes to Skyblock but I don't think mines are the answer.

Things that should be changed:
/fix should be brought back to some degree maybe even with a cool down or something.
Since Ults can fly fall damage should be removed.
This whole island limit of villager breeding thing. (remove it)
Change a few of the prices in the Skyblock shop.

 

I don't play skyblock, because it's not my thing. I agree with SMshortstack and Chairm on this that the mines would really be OP. Would actually would make an insane amount of money with little to no effort.

What really would be a problem, is the shop. The prices will drop an insane amount, cobblestone, dirt, jewels. The part with no pvp is also a huge problem if this was added, as it would be no risk = high reward.

p.s. you make nice presentations.

I laughed when I saw your +1 on the review slide, then your post on this. xD


-1 to mines

+1 to Pvp arena though. I think having a private arena at the spawn would be really cool. (/duel)
(Shortstack's ideas aren't bad either. I actually +1 your idea to)

 

The mines seem pretty op to me. Kinda defeats the purpose and challenge of skyblock doesn't it? The whole point of skyblock is that it's a challenge and it is difficult to get items. Don't get me wrong, I don't play skyblock all that often. I think maybe tweak the rarities of some ores and blocks so that even donators and such still have a challenge. I do like how it promotes voting though.
I'm at a +/- for this atm.

 

I really like the idea except for one thing. Like adot said, seems too op and takes away the point of skyblock. Being able to get a load of diamonds and iron pretty easily in skyblock just seems like too easy. Maybe if this was nerfed a lot more, like iron is very rare, no diamond or emerald or gold. Something like that. Kinda seems like a whole new gamemode to me.
I'm a +/- as well but that could change depending on future updates.

 

- Okay, so first off, as already brought up, the rarities on certain ores and such can most definitely be tweaked as necessary.

- There really wouldn't be so much of a problem with "too much" cobblestone because once things get to a certain extent, it allows people to be more creative with their items and craft more using slabs, stairs, and other types of bricks rather than desperately having the whole thing built cobblestone in efforts to simply have a platform. It's just a little bit of a push past those desperate efforts so that people can instead focus on -how- they want to build their "platform" and what they want on it.

- "Too much dirt" shouldn't be much of an issue considering it's *only* available in a rarity in the mines *only* after said player votes on all 5 available voting sites. This is an example where the pros will very much outweigh the cons. Voting is the most beneficial, cheapest way of advertising for MeepCraft, and it's even possible for Meep to get sponsored if it's voted for enough.

Someone wants to mine and spend tons of money (that they're now capable of saving up), with buying/selling/trading extra cobblestone and dirt to make an emerald, checker-boarded slime farm on the bottle of their island? Cool! Good for them, lol.

- Also, it forces/encourages players to interact with each other more as they have more of such items to collect, buy, sell, and trade in large quantity. Something I'll never forget from a conversation I had with Alien_Venom, Mistress and other admins from Old Meep is them talking about how much happier everybody was when they all had enough of everything to actually do what they wanted with it - rather than need.

I once had someone buy 10 double chests of cobblestone from me just because they wanted to/could, and it was something for me to work towards while still being capable of building on my own island, and it was absolutely amazing. It kept me hooked, gave me something to look forward to, and also kept them on. Another time I traded 2 double chests of Oak Logs for a couple animal spawn eggs and things because I had enough cobblestone to expand my island and room to build my animal farms.

Mining cobblestone at cobblestone generators was still common, but it was rarer and much, much less time consuming so everybody could still do what they wanted without working for 6 months straight at a generator. It keeps people interested, and connected with each other.

- PvP is enabled in the Nether mine, but none others. This is so that people don't have to fear about bringing their valuables with them to go mining and get what they need, but there is still mobs enabled so they still have to watch out for fall damage where others have already mined (lava is illegal in these mines, unless it's in the Nether, but still no dumping on other players. That's bad.) and also creeper explosions, zombies, skeletons, spiders, etc. There is also a small reward for killing mobs (it'd be around 10-50 meebles either randomly or depending on the mob, to be discussed. Nothing too big, just some incentive.)

- There's still plenty of things you cannot get from these mines, like animals/mobs such as cows, chickens, sheep, pigs, wood/trees, carrots, potatoes, obsidian, and all the things players generally enjoy making farms or generators for on their islands. That's a major aspect of the original SkyBlock that would most definitely be left intact.

- I'm glad that the idea of having a seperate PvP arena in SkyBlock is liked though, thanks for that much, haha.

If I missed anything or you have any more questions/comments/concerns on what I brought up here, please let me know!

 

I'm still kind of stuck on how a prison-style mine makes skyblock more entertaining.

 

Animals are super easy to get in the first place and don't require much of a challenge. Autofarms are easy to build. And I can get a dub chest of cobble in no time at all. If there was dirt in the mines that would ruin the value of dirt. Dirt is an expensive block used for farms and spawning animals. I'm fine with a PVP arena getting added but I don't think mines are a good idea.

 

-1000000000000.....

- You are ruining the purpose of Skyblock and the name... your turning it into a prison server...
- Sometimes there are no people in skyblock, and the people who are on can just mine up what ever is "rare", and the price for diamonds, gold, whatever will drop alot, and /is top will be filled with island levels more that 50k...
- "Ores" may not seem important, but have you ever tried to look up how much ISLAND LEVEL one block gives?
- Iron block gives you 0.1
- Gold block gives you 1.5
- Emerald block gives you 1
- Diamond block gives you 3
- Obsidian gives you 0.1
- Grass block gives you 3/100
- And so on, just go lookup the list on a website
- If you want ores to exist they must be rare af.... and if its rare af might as well not even implement it...
- The "mines" you are providing to skyblock starters, means they can get full god gear without even having island level 100, because they can just spend their time in the "mine" and get every material they need...
- Cobblestone will be useless since they can get iron stuff easy
- Skyblock is NOT BORING if you have the patience, plus, if you added mines the /is top wont even be the best skyblock players, it'll just be whoever gets the most ores out of it

-already covered it above

- do you even skyblock? the purpose of a small island and a few materials is so the players have a hard time surviving, and "survival" doesnt mean you need to make it fancy the first night, build a cobble platform, get a better cobble gen, then replace cobble with whatever you want, the cobble serves as scaffolding there as well..

-Normal skyblock has that few dirt, yet in meepcraft you can already get more dirt by using coins, now you want a generator for it? i mean, what are dirt used for in skyblock, mini farms should be enough, sheepfarms can be small, they add up to 2 stacks only, why do you need a massive farm if the stuff you get from it is almost unused since challenges can only be completed 100 times [ using alts is illegal, *looks at daedric_ace* ]

- i kinda have nothing to say about this, but if you have so much money, why bother to even mine?

- THEN WHATS THE PURPOSE OF SKYBLOCK?????

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 29, 2015, Original Post Date: Dec 29, 2015 ---

theres another part, i just accidentally hit post reply, currently typing part 2:

 

+1