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Things Need To Change.

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Cyber_Punk_, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. Cyber_Punk_

    Cyber_Punk_ Optimist Punk

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    As many of you may know, I am Cyber_Punk_ and I have been playing on this server since 2012. I left the server and devoted my time to other things, in hopes to return to an improved community. However, to my most absolute heartbreak - I came back to an empty chat with the void of no presence. A chat that makes you have to test whether there is lag or not, due to the utter silence. Now, I hate pointing out the negatives in the server because, well, the server has never fallen to the low it is now. The server has never disappointed me to the extent it has now, and I hate to say it but I think if anyone disagrees - you are facing a sad denial.

    The reason I am making this is not to gain attention. It is not the put down a server I don't play any more, it is not my place to state what needs to change because I do not have a say.
    When I became staff, I had hopes of making a difference, of somewhat contributing my thoughts and ideas to the team so that an implementation could be placed. I cannot begin to fathom out the reasons as to why nothing has been changed when a clear fall has taken place. The current standards of the server are not the standards they should be at. And please, do not get me wrong, the server is still great but the community isn't. And although you cannot control the intentions nor actions of a community - nor can you control the activity. However, you can control the influx and you can change things to allow for a better communication, you can change things to allow for some sort of dedication and activity. You cannot implement further additions to the server without a player base. If there is no demand, there shouldn't be any stock - and that is exactly what the server is doing. Sure people love infected, of course people love pvp, and yes people play towny. But, why would you expect this to bring in players when there is no foundation? How can you expect people to talk in the chat when there will be no reply? The community is filled with colored titles next to names. There is no welcoming nor simple step to getting into the server for new players. Yes, the spawn in spectacular, it's immaculate to say the least but do you really expect a community to magnetize towards a spawn if there is no presence or simplicity? I won't name names but I joined another server a while ago and I cannot begin to explain how simple everything is. How simple the spawn is and how easy it is just to pick up on how to play. People are stubborn, people do not read to learn, they read to reply and that is exactly what this server expects. I am not saying change the whole server or just remove everything, no, not at all what I am saying. What I am suggesting is something simpler and yet far more effective. But at the same time the simplicity of this will most definitely have hate, but hear me out for a second.

    So my suggestion is resetting the server. And I know just from this comment, half of you will throw a fit and complain about it not being possible and find every single possible negative impact this could have but really, what is there to lose? Through the years I have been apart of this community, I have seen more names return than leave after a reset. Sure you will lose people but the gains will be far far more. Do a relaunch, send out a mass email. Unban people. And I know for a fact just from me saying unban people - there will be an uproar of criticism but why are you fearful of something that could easily assist the community? Yes there are people who have been rightly banned and I would never in a million years consider them a space on the server but people do change. People learn from their mistakes. There will always always be "crime" or an injustice that will be provoked by certain people but that's why there is staff. When I was staff, I could care less about who I had to deal with because that was my job and I voluntarily signed up for it with no benefits. Yes it will be a lot of work but you as the staff are here to make a change and improve what you can, aren't you? And if you doubt this statement or insist on it being "too much admin and too much work" - Leave the staff team. No attitude like that should be an attitude from a staff member. I know for a fact there will be every reason not to let people back onto the server but how can you know without trying? How can you pass judgements and assumptions without having pure evidence that it will happen. Just reset the server. The economy needs a drastic change and the rich only get richer and the poor have no chance. I can't tell you how many people probably feel as though there is no room for them because there is no changes in the economy.

    I have so much more to say about this and suggest the possibilities but if you will take anything out of this - understand that sometimes simplicity is the most valuable worth, complexity is in no way comparable to the simple. Maybe you are afraid of change and losing everything and sure you can't repeat the past and expect 2012 to just return. However, you got to where you are somehow, right? You improved and gained what you have through time and through starting from scratch like the rest of us. And you most definitely can change things to improve on the past and have an improved future. Maybe this thread is nothing but something you will read and pass over, or something that people will only disagree with but I know and I am sure you will all know in the back of your minds, behind the surface of your denial - you will have similar thoughts. And sorry but a reset is in order. Disagree if you want, I am not making this to change your opinion nor attempt to change your mindset but just consider it. Consider simplicity and the easiness of recreating something into a far better state.

    Good luck to you all in the future. I sincerely hope things work out for the best :)
    ~ Cyber_Punk_
     
  2. Adam34falcon

    Adam34falcon Celebrity Meeper

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    Preach on sister, Preach on
     
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  3. PainCakexx1997

    PainCakexx1997 Squirrel Power!

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    I do agree with you when it comes to that resetting the server would solve a lot of issues, but I think of that as more of a last option kinda deal. It would fix a lot of issues and I am sure of that, but I think that the thing we need to get done is to make it so that people that has a lot of money has something to spend that money on. And then make it so that the money flow will be redirected to the people that do the work in wild. This would also create a flow up towards the richer players, the reasons for this is that when the money moves more around in the economy it can make it so that it is easier to make money. But you also have something to spend it on. This would create a outflow of money and a inflow of money. Almost like the state invests money in to the community and by doing so the money moves in to a company and then the company gets taxed. It is a circle we need to improve because right now the circle ends after buying the Ultimate rank.

    On the other hand I do disagree with unbanning Everyone, the main reason for this is that there are players that can never learn. We base this of people that we have given so many chances that they shouldn't be allowed back. These players have just come on to troll the server and they still are. We try to be fair with everyone, and give everyone a chance. But when they have gotten several chances and by that I mean unbans from permbans. Then I think that the people that are just running around being toxic and making it so that people that come on the server to have fun doesn't have fun, well then I think that these people shouldn't get anymore chance. We are here to have fun and relax, at least that is what I am here for.

    Paincakexx1997 :)
     
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  4. CrazyYoungBro

    CrazyYoungBro Popular Meeper

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    To say the least you were amazing.Well I kind of agree to you.The reset thingy is good, but I dont like simplicity.It makes things boring..I have played alot of servers and I love dis one particularly due to its complexity.
    Nd Plz Preach On
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 16, 2015, Original Post Date: Dec 16, 2015 ---
    Well said..
    I agree 100% to u Paincake
     
  5. marshallmafers

    marshallmafers Celebrity Meeper

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    You came back on at like 2 am my time. What did you expect?

    Also today is Wednesday a school day for most kids. Why would kids be on an mc server at 2 am?
     
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  6. The_Unkown675

    The_Unkown675 Celebrity Meeper

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    For real doe? What did you expect. That was kinda stupid.
     
  7. weewoozesty

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    Please, elaborate on what you mean by a "reset" you mean to get rid of people's hard earned meebles that they have spent years working for? To get rid of the ranks and benefits of said ranks that they paid for?

    This server is not complex at all. It's simple, the problem is not the server, it is Minecraft it self.

    Minecraft gets boring.

    After a while the game gets boring, loses it's challenge and people lose interest. They leave, take a break. And come back for a while, get re-addicted. Then get burned out on it again. That's the cycle of Minecraft.

    But to say the rich keep getting richer on this server, sure they do. But that's because they worked for their fortune. They spent a long time playing on the server amassing their meebles. Everybody starts out at the bottom of the totem pole. Rather or not you choose to climb said totem pole is entirely up to you. That's how the economy works.

    Resetting the server, and slapping everybody in the face who put in the hours and work into their game/towns/builds/meebles And even ranks.
     
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  8. The_Unkown675

    The_Unkown675 Celebrity Meeper

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    If this server was reset, and I lost my Ultimate rank and town, I would quit. But I guess that's what your going for, right?
     
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  9. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    I did, and that is why most people who leave staff do - It's too much work for a volunteer force to legitimately want to do for any length of time. The people who end up being staff for prolonged periods of time just don't play the game anymore.

    Simply put, the server is how it is for the same reason as there always has been; half measures.

    A reset isn't viable, that's the best way to lose a majority of the paying players.
     
  10. Landonator419

    Landonator419 Celebrity Meeper

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    Ok. If you meant ranks and meebles, then I'm not ok with it being reset. If we get to keep ranks and meebles and then it's reset that is fine. People pay money, most of them don't want it reset.
    This is what should happen though:
    Fuzzlr gives a warning the server will be resetting in 2 weeks. He lets everyone know through all his social media and /broadcast. He tells people to sell everything they have to /warp shop. He has every item so you can sell it. People get all their stuff and sell it all. After the 2 weeks, Fuzzlr resets everything besides people's ranks and meebles. The end.
     
  11. cooey

    cooey Legendary Meeper

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    Oh that's sweet.
    A server reset adding players? No, that would LOSE any current donators.
     
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  12. Miku

    Miku One Hell of a Miku Staff Member Mod

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    Going to work

    You wouldn't lose your ultimate rank lol.
     
  13. weewoozesty

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    I am not concerned with the server being reset, because I know it wont happen. It is simply too short sighted of a solution. Like putting a band-aid on a broken leg.

    Frankly, I can admit. I would not want to be staff on here. I already moderate on two different games as it is. That's plenty.

    I don;t feel like doing so on a minecraft server, since I play minecraft to play minecraft. Not "Daycare Simulator 2016" having to babysit people.
     
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  14. Deinen

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    ^ It's also part: Argue until your mad for small changes that are logical and beneficial, lol.

    - The answer it seems is to avoid spending thousands on advertisements, and new spawns until the games you host have content. Keep updating the game-modes, adding content, to keep your regular players here, and attract new ones. Doesn't matter how pretty your apple is when you're selling the same apples everyone else is. Get a better apple.
     
  15. weewoozesty

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    You mean like how "Halo" something that was supposed to be a big feature was completely ignored for the longest time? How that game mode advertised things for different donor ranks and completely failed to deliver? Yet when ever somebody made a suggestion to be given simply what they were told they would get it would get denied? Just as a rough example.

    I am waiting till 1.9 is released. I hope the server can update to it soon as well.

    That will actually make the game interesting and do a lot of things that would actually benefit an economy.

    Maybe if the owner "Fuzzlr" actually made appearances and interacted with the community it would show he gave a damn about more than just the money. As much as I love the server, there are just so many basic fundamentals missing or are being trampled on.
     
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    10/10.
     
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  17. Cyber_Punk_

    Cyber_Punk_ Optimist Punk

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    I know I was, I actually came on to speak to a staff member about something, not observe the growth or presence because I know better than anything that my timezone is far different from any other. I came on at about 1am my time as well, which is peak time for most people - sure there were numbers and there was a presence but I think a lot should change. Perhaps not a reset then, because I do understand the devotion people have invested but the smallest changes make a large impact.


    I mean a reset of progress, not in game benefits that you have paid for, that isn't what I intended to mean.


    It was a suggestion - people would have something to do again and new players would find a balance. Yes, people have rightfully earned all their items and they have made their money and progress through hard work - that's why this was a suggestion which builds a discussion and hopefully builds ideas of what could be improved. I know resetting would lose people but vice versa. Trust me. Even though I don't play regularly, my builds and my money and my items being vanished would definitely without a doubt cause my anger to spiral. But, it's not about me and I know I can build up to this again. This post wasn't a "you have to reset"kind of thing - it was simply me expressing my concerns and worries about a further down spiral if nothing is changed. A reset should undoubtedly be the last turn, but still a possible direction.


    The appearances of the owner would be a grand change. I do understand he has a life, like we all do - but surely he could spare some time to acknowledge his own server? I completely agree with what everyone is saying because I am immensely open minded and I understand everyone's point of view. You can't please everyone and you will never be capable of doing so but please the majority. All I can hope for is that there is somewhat of a change, somewhere. But, I suppose I don't have much of a say considering my time away from the server but when you are exposed to other servers and other communities on different things - you notice a lot more than being drawn to the same thing over and over again. I just hope something is taken from this, that's all :)
     
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    Oh, so you mean all the meebles and towns, including ebon, a town with over 300 members. You want to get rid of that? I'm sure that will bring back more players.
     
  19. PainCakexx1997

    PainCakexx1997 Squirrel Power!

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    In my opinion one of the main current issues is the amount of techs we have. Techs are really hard to recruit because it takes skills that people out there are paying for. Also it is about trusting another person with access to the server files. The damage a tech can do to the server is insane and that is why changes take a lot of time to make. Our techs are really good at what they do but if you look on trello you can see what they are dealing with. There are things that they are currently fixing and that makes it so that other things has to wait. + with the client updates getting released soon they are going to have to update a bunch of plugins on top of the work on trello.

    I am saying this because we do look in to what everyone says on the forums but we can't do everything by just snapping of our fingers. We try to make changes and push them true but sometimes it is not enough. To be honest in my opinion something needs to go, if we want meepcraft to have a stable economy and a flowing economy sacrifices will have to be made.
     
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  20. weewoozesty

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    This server will never have a stable economy. That's just how it is. There are too many ways to make meebles while not enough ways to actually spend it and take it from the server.
     

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