PvP Mods

Mods don't want to deal with hackers. Recruit people who do. Otherwise, we just sit around with hackers all day. Or... you guys could pick it up and not have this be a problem. But when a hacker is running around for 20 minutes with people filing modreqs and shouting "hacker" and nothing is being done, there's an issue.

 

When people see a hacker, record or get evidence. Staff members are very busy usually, and will eventually get to the situation. But if you can record the cheater or get evidence of the infraction, report him on the forums. I support your idea of recruiting people, but it needs an application form or something.

 

It's always been the case with all the staff members, excluding the very few staff who have tried to combat this. The server isn't big enough for PVP mods on their own; there is currently around 30? moderation staff and with the average player count just under 200 - so it's around 6 players to a staff member, so the excuse of there being lack of staff which was commonly used before is out of the question. I'd happily like to know why there is very little effort put into dealing with hackers on the server, is it that the staff are uneducated on hacking? (not sure how that's possible but anyway), the staff are lazy or just simply not want to deal with them? Considering how players hacking is a huge push factor for many if not all servers; there should be a lot more effort being put into dealing with cheaters.

+1 for recruiting staff who are motivated to deal with hackers, -1 to specific pvp mods

Reporting hackers on the forums is next to useless, by the time you record them hacking, edit the video, upload to youtube and post on forums - many players could already have been turned away, why would they stay if there was hackers just running about free, ruining other peoples enjoyment? and generally it's just a huge waste of time.

 

Ok so there's that, but at least you have the evidence of him hacking. A mod will get to your forum post, as where shouting or /modreq usually takes longer, and makes the hacker leave.

 

Isn't the point to make him leave? Whether to be banned or not.

 

If the hacker sees that no staff member reacts to the constant shouting or /modreqs, he will hack again. I know its hateful when you go against a hacker, but its temporary. If all /g that theres a hacker, he will leave, but return later.

 

This has been suggested many times before, but denied. This is why we are trying to find good moderators/helpers who are in time zones where we have less staff. We are fully aware that this is a big problem, and are finding ways to combat it. We just don't see a reason to have a different section of staff for hackers. We have people who are good against hackers in staff, and people who have other strong suits. There's not really enough reason to split up the staff team.

 

Any staff member that you talk to will admit that this is a problem, but you need to realize that specialized staff members are definitely not the answer. Think about it; if we can't trust someone enough to be a regular Helper, why would we trust them with banning hackers?

 

This isn't about not trusting someone enough to be helper.

this is about setting up a specific group of people that their only job is to catch and ban hackers. That's it - they do not do modreqs (except hacking ones ofc), they aren't a helper, they aren't expected to do a helper's job because.... they aren't one and that'd be ridiculous to expect them of that. if there are no complaints of hackers, they are free to do as they wish. They ignore all modreqs that involve say thefts or towny help, because dealing with something like a hacker is always best done immediately - and therefore worth the skipping over a theft modreq that a helper can do and can also wait 15 minutes, in which case a hacker may have stopped hacking or have left the server.

It's not that any one of these pvp mods -can't- do the job as helper, it's that they only do hacking instead of the whole bundle of modreqs.


Honestly +1 it's becoming a big enough of an issue that something like this seems necessary. Staff are not currently solving the problem and there are easier solutions such as this.

 

If I don't trust someone enough to do simple theft modreqs, I don't trust them to ban hackers. That's the problem; people call hacker on people who are not doing it and there would be many many more incorrect hacking bans if this were to be implemented. I understand that it isn't about Helpers, but like I said, if I don't trust someone to be a Helper I sure don't trust them to do hacking bans. It's not something that everyone can just pick up and do and it's definitely not something I'd want a lot of pvpers doing

Sorry if I'm not articulating well by the way, I'm rather tired so I probably don't make much sense nor am I probably writing down my ideas the way I'm thinking them ^.^

 

+1? Maybe have a new staff rank though. It's after helper and before mod. You have to become a helper first, then you would catch hackers as your main priority. Then, if there are none, then you do modreqs. That could also increase the amount of staff on and have more staff on at a time.

 

Denied we will not have a separate rank for kitpvp staff as of now. Just file a modreq and be patient.