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Kitpvp suggestion

Discussion in 'Completed' started by legendcaleb, Oct 18, 2015.

  1. legendcaleb

    legendcaleb Celebrity Meeper

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    Nerf the squire kit

    Fire aspect is extremely annoying an unnecessary. Just remove it and maybe buff up the sharpness by one. The kit is far too powerful and too many people use it because of it
     
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  2. CrackCrazy

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    I believe the whole point of the revamped kitpvp is fairness to all players. Old Kitpvp there was a huge unfair advantage between donators and citizens. Squire is much too powerful compared to almost other kits.
     
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    Here we observe the Squire in its natural habitat. It loves the cold slippery lands where maneuverability is rendered obsolete and uses its Fire Aspect to prevent any and all escape due to fire damage. Even after the Squire perishes, its effects live on, forever tormenting its killer with flames of agony where even a heal cannot save them from its woeful burns. Woe. Woe to the world.
     
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  4. Epicdude141

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    I use it and yes, it is pretty damn op.

    +1
     
  5. Joe22FTW

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    Huge +1
     
  6. Deljikho

    Deljikho Lazy Swami

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    I've suggested this to Upper Staff, we'll see what happens.
     
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    I've stopped using the Squire kit because I get much better results from Warrior, which I use to slaughter many a Squire. Must not be overpowered, then. The weapon is great but the armor is poor.
     
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  9. jrs25872

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    I use it, its too op. replace the fire with sharpness pls
     
  10. diamondtree777

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    Also please nerf the taiga explorer kit. If Someone isn't using the squire kit they are sure to be using the explorer taiga kit. Sure it doesn't have fire aspect but the full iron armor along with the diamond axe makes for good defence while also outputting loads of damage. This makes for an easy killing spree and once a player has the ks with this kit, you have no chance unless you out number him by more than 5. Even then all he has to do is focus the player with the least armor and he is full health again, repeat 4 times and you have an easy 1v5. You can do this with any kit but the taiga explorer has enough defence to survive 5 people hitting him, for long enough to kill one of them and get the heal. And if a taiga explorer finds that he is up against more than he can handle he can just pop a regen and speed 2 potion and no one can catch him. Any who are willing to chase find that he will turn and kill you because he is back to full health in a matter of seconds from the regen potion.

    Now after considering this I have no idea what should be nerfed on the taiga explorer, but my best guess would be the diamond axe, or the potions. All of the other explorer kits are not nearly as powerful as the taiga.

    I would consider myself the best at the beastmaster kit. Partly Because hardly anyone uses it. Though it is perfectly viable if you know how to use it right. If your playstyle is different then this kit is most likely unsuitable. It's more of a kit that requires learning then just jumping in and bashing faces. To be honest though before I ever tried the beast master kit, I thought it would spawn a pack of wolves to fight for you. "Beastmaster"
     
  11. jrs25872

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    That kit is fine as it is
     
  12. diamondtree777

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    I never see any of the other explorers used nearly as much as this one.
     
  13. jrs25872

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    That dosent matter. the kit is ok and dosent need to be nerfed
     
  14. SX1

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    Iron armor + Sharp 3 diamond axe (9.25 ?) is pretty op compared to the other kits. Regen pots and Speed pots as well just push that kit beyond squire.

    Nerf Squire and nerf Taiga kit.

    Better nerf Greninja.
     
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  16. Deljikho

    Deljikho Lazy Swami

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    Okay so what do you guys prefer: changing it to Iron Sharp 3 or Diamond Sharp 2?
     
  17. diamondtree777

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    Changing the material to iron would only take a half a heart of damage off. Change it to no less than sharpness 2 iron, though I would say that it should be sharpness 1 to make sure that the other explorer kits are as strong as this Taiga. Lets compare this with the warrior kit which is most similar to taiga explorer.

    Warrior: unenchanted iron sword, full iron armor (boots and pants have protection 1), 3 soups

    Taiga explorer: diamond axe with sharpness 3, full iron armor, 1 regeneration splash potion, 2 speed 2 splash potions, 3 soups

    New (and still OP) taiga explorer: iron axe with sharpness 3, full iron armor, 1 regeneration splash potion, 2 speed 2 splash potions, 3 soups

    Balanced taiga explorer: Iron axe with sharpness 1, full iron armor, 1 regeneration splash potion, 2 speed 2 splash potions, 3 soups


    First lets look at what is equal between taiga explorer and warrior. Both have 3 soups, Both have full iron armor, (and with this change both have the same weapons (sharpness 1 iron axe, and regular iron sword do about the same damage)

    Now the differences that make each stronger. Warrior has protection 1 on 2 of the armor pieces. On the other hand, taiga explorer has a splash regeneration potion, and 2 splash speed 2 potions. which are amazing for getting away especially because they are applied instantly.

    In conclusion Taiga has 2 splash potions of speed 2 for super fast escape and a regeneration potion that is splash too. The potions are a very worth tradeoff for having protection 1 on only half of your armor pieces, even after this change.

    Also just to point out, does anyone remember the exclusive kit in the old kitpvp? Remember people said it was OP? Incase you don't It is almost completely exactly the same as taiga explorer
     
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  18. legendcaleb

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    As a proud antagonist of the exclusive kit, and a user of the explorer kit, I can say they actually are very different. You couldn't even kill the exclusive kit, but the explorer kit is actually pretty easy to kill. The kits now are only as good as the player, except for the Squire kit which is very overpowered. The sharpness on it is fine, the only thing bad is the fire aspect.

    Solution:
    Just remove the fire aspect off squire and we're all fine
     
  19. diamondtree777

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    That explains why you always get a 10+ killstreak when you use the explorer kit. And the only one three that can kill you with it is 3 squires, when you are out of soup, and potions. Additionally you scarcely use any other kits than the squire and the taiga explorer. Most likely because you would do poorly because you would get killed by someone with the taiga or squire kit. WHICH are both op, and is why they are the only ones that you use.
     
  20. legendcaleb

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    Not to seem arrogant but I can get a 10+ killstreak with most of the kits. The only reason I use taiga is because I love speed 2 and I'm better with it. Squire negates any speed kit and it's overpowered.
     

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