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Loling so hard rn. You seriously think this? Seriously? Communism is literally the opposite of Conservative values. I believe what you were looking for was Capitalism, the mortal enemy of Communism.


Liberals believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need. Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve problems.

Communism much?

As opposed to: Conservatives believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals. Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems.

Can you imagine anything less like communism?

 

Communism isnt part of socialism. It's kinda the other way around, actually. Socialism is an economic system where all industry is controlled by the government. Communism is a type of government that has a one-party system, uses socialism, and distributes resources equally among the people.

That's fascism, not communism.

 

If you could NOT post bullshit like this to make conservatives look like idiots [which is what this is] that would be appreciated.

1) Liberalism =/= Communism. What was meant was that [Marxist] Communism believes in traditional family values, hard work, individual liberties, strong national defense, personal responsibility, and the ability of a given person do do what's right. Sound a lot like Conservatism? It actually does. Communism differs from Conservatism in its implementation, that is how these values enter society. Conservatives believe that it's each individual's responsibility to exemplify each of these requirements, and if not, too bad for the country, because it's their right to do whatever the hell they want. On the other hand, Communists (at least Marxists) believe that these values should be implemented under the watch of an all-powerful dictator who introduces policies so as to better acheive these values. The reason why Communism will never work is because these dictators inherently are corrupt because of human nature, and that each person under the dictator falsifies data--an environment perfect for power abuse and corruption.

 

As TheDebatheist put it, it's socialism on crack.

 

Also to you people claiming that "Why is one party in the US obsessed by God right now?" and "Why does Fox news deny climate change?" etc.

I'm curious as to what you're arguing against. As a self-identified conservative (at least socially) does this mean all my values necessarily align with those of Fox news, Rush Limbaugh, or the gun-toting Texan hillbilly? It gets me SO ANGRY when people *this kid in lunch today* say "I met a republican who said that America should be all white. That's YOUR party. You're not even white. Hypocrite."

I identify as Republican because the majority of my values identify with most of the "Republican" ideals. Does this mean I agree with EVERYTHING from EVERY Republican candidate? No, it means that I agree with MOST Republican/conservative--whatever--ideals. Honestly, I find many Republicans to be uneducated, loud, and obnoxious--this could just be my experience growing up in Texas, but I still agree with their values.

For example, I definitely acknowlege climate change is occuring right now, and that humans cause it. While this fact is underreported in Fox news, I can find plenty other evidence that this is happening.

If you think about it, what exactly is the POINT of a two-party system? We're just picking from the lesser of two evils here. The words "Republican" or "conservative" can mean a plethora of different things, and connote a variety of different implications, depending on whose ears the word falls on. In my opinion, to say "I'm a Republican" or "I'm a Democrat" means a lot less than "I identify with XXXXX and YYYYY positions, and we should try our best to get that done whether that crosses party lines or not."

 

My point was, it's a lot more like Communism than Conservatism is.

a) That's Marxist Communism, which is not all Communism. b) Marxist Communism has never worked, as in No country has ever succeeded in being Marxist Communist. Maybe what you say of Marxist Communism is true, but it seems more reasonable to me to look at communism that actually exists, such as China, and North Korea. I see no individual liberty, personal responsibility, freedom of government restriction. What I see is an overcontrolling, corrupted, evil government that cares not for it's citizens, and attempts to preserve it'self through a Military Dictatorship. I see citizens living with no freedom, scared of a government that can take them into custody at any time. So please, don't make yourself look like an idiot, and claim Communism and Conservatism are at all similar.

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Telling the other side they're stupid. Apparently.

 

keep people distracted while you sell the government to the milk industry

 

They do it to demonize their opponents, and make themselves appear superior.

Ikr. I met a democrat who said it was racist to ask someone where they were born. A few days later, they asked me where I was born. Hypocrite.

Exactly. And Fox News isn't representative of Conservatism at all.

 

Sorry about my short responses, guys. I'm trying to type this on my school iPad and it lags after I type a certain amount of characters.

 

Lol, make sure to write a thank you note to the people who payed for those.

 

Wow, Communism exists in China? I never knew that 1) giant corporations controlling the national economy 2) responsibility to take care of yourself 3) very few economic restrictions 4) very heavily restricted labor unions and 5) a mostly free-market economy are actually Communism. China (and to the other extreme, North Korea) are only very nominally Communist--China is in fact only politically Communist, in that it's a one-party state and there is no freedom of expression/information/media--and North Korea is just...uh...fdjhdjhfhfhfghfjgjfjgdxhvjhdhsesgfchgsdsafxchkdgfassjfgkjb,ndjdghkfgfd.

While I say this, I'm no fan of Communism and believe that it's doomed to fail. But comparing Communism to China/North Korea/Cuba is like comparing Christianity to the KKK or the Westboro Baptist Church (or for that matter, saying that all Conservatives' ideals are the same as Rush Limbaugh's). I'm pointing out that Communism's ideals, as stated by Karl Marx, are NOT "overcontrolling, corrupted, evil government that care not for it's citizens, and attempts to preserve it'self through a Military Dictatorship." It looks very good on paper, but never in practice. I don't know why this has strikethru and bold; I didn't do it.

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Me--I had to pay a $250 fee.

 

It's very misleading to assume they are the same thing, however. Just because something is closer to something does not make it at all the same concept. Democrats still stress political freedom. Communism removes any type of opposition to a one party system. Democrats still allow for some economic freedom, as economic freedom is embedded in our constitution. Democrats simply believe in more economic restrictions such as more levy on taxes, wages, etc. A communist government would control every aspect of business and remove all private property-- something that an overwhelming amount of American Democrats would definitely not want.

Comparing communism to liberalism is like comparing capitalism to anarchism. Anarchists want no government control on anything. Capitalists want less government control on most things. By your logic, it's the same concept. You and I can both agree that it is far from the truth.


For the record, I'm pretty fiscally moderate.

 

It's been 10 minutes since somebody replied to this. Can someone reply so that I can go on another rant?

 

I am infatuated with donald trump and I want to pursue a romantic relationship with him
@metr0n0me you said you would rant get ranting

 

And what kind of iPad is it?

 

Air-heavily "subsidized" by tuition.

 

I never did. I'm just saying it was inaccurate of the debatheist to say conservatism was more like communism that liberalism was. I am well aware they are different.

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So everybody who payed tuition payed for some of the $350 for the iPad that you didn't?

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Lol, way to misrepresent what I say.

Anyway, yes, I would be inaccurate in saying Liberalism is more like Anarchism than Conservatism (not capitalism). But I don't.

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What you seem to be saying is that since the WBC (communism) and normal Christianity (Liberalism) aren't the same, Atheists(conservatism) are more related to the WBC than Christians are.

 

I don't get this at all. Are you simply sticking words next to other words with no thought whatsoever as to what they mean? The WBC certainly isn't communist, "normal Christianity," whatever that is, isn't liberal, and Atheism certainly isn't conservative. I'm not sure if you were thinking that what you said is what Skaros thought...I'm a bit confused.

No, my parents paid my tuition. People who "can't afford" tuition get to attend for free or a lower price. They do that to attract athletes, as it seems that the school prioritizes winning state athletic championships heavily while still winning academic awards.

 

I'm Canadian so this is all pretty irrelevant to me.
I'm just excited to see who wins xD

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Lol I'm so excited for the 2020 election

 

Yeah, that went over your head...

I was using a different comparison to represent the three different political views. So, if we say hypothetically that the WBC is communism, and Christianity is Liberalism, and Atheism is Conservatism, then we can see how absurd it is to say Conservatism is more similar to communism than Liberalism is.

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Alright. This is the way I see it. I'm going to assume this is a private school. Your parents payed x in tuition. Then you payed y to receive a tablet. X must cover teachers, maintenance, school supplies, etc, as well as $350 per student for a tablet. (The iPad air is a $600 tablet). If some people get in for free, your tuition is paying for theirs, and your tuition is paying that $350 for their tablet. In addition, everybody who does not get a tablet is paying, out of their tuition, for the tablets of others.