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V-Shop Addition and Improvement

Discussion in 'Denied' started by Cookies713, Jan 22, 2015.

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  1. Cookies713

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    I suggest we bring back V-Shop. Now I know everyone has made threads about this, but this is with one improvement, or what is an improvement in my eyes. The major problem with the V-Shop is undercutting, so we simply add a base price that people cannot go under. They can, however, go over it, and this allows freedom of price, though most will stick to it. This does bring up the problem 'If the prices are the same, who do I buy from?' Then we simply modify the command a little, and make it /buy <number> <item> <player>. This way one can choose who to buy from, though as the prices will (mostly) be the same, <player> is an optional part if the command. This also nullifies the need for <price> which we had, meaning the lowest price you were willing to pay for said amount of items. If <player> is not used, it will buy from a random shop, not in any specific order.
     
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  2. Iatemyfriends

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    If there is a lowest price people will set the prices to the lowest prices and make it harder for people to sell items.
     
  3. le gooboy

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    it should be random. This would be annoying and unfair... +1, v-shop was gr9
     
  4. Iatemyfriends

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    We're not talking about the meepshop...
     
  5. le gooboy

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    well,that's just the law of supply and demand at work! :)
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 22, 2015, Original Post Date: Jan 22, 2015 ---
    srry lel, brainfart!
     
  6. Cookies713

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    Hence this
    And this
     
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    As long as the player who you buy it from is different each time, +1
     
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    Peoplez will buy from major shops like Diana's Or Sjoe's. -1,
     
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    What was wrong with the shop originally where we set our own prices and people had to buy them? I remember selling heaps of sand at like .75 meebles, didn't get much money at first but it adds up. Wheres the flaw?
     
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  12. Cookies713

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    I've read a lot of comments on threads saying that the problem with v-shop was the undercutting everyone did. I thought that perhaps if we added a base price, this could counter that.
     
  13. SirGiggly

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    So people get undercut, this is economics. Wouldn't adding a base price just make /warp shop into an e-shop (not saying that's a bad thing).
     
  14. Cookies713

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    e-shop?
    (sorry went to get breakfast)
     
  15. SirGiggly

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    Like just the admin shop but a command.
     
  16. Cookies713

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    I don't quite understand what you mean by this, sorry;
     
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    Bruh. xD I loved the vshop. No one cares about undercutting accept the sellers. The buyers want stuff for cheaper and the sellers get to compete with the lowest price. If you have the lowest price then people will buy from you and no one else and it will add up a lot. Why gave a set price? If prices have to be Set a certain way then no one can really compete and then the sellers really have no chance of competition because from the buyers point of view they don't care who they buy things from they just want it cheap. So they aren't going to be typing in a spec name if prices are all down as far as they can go cause if they are set up then the sellers have no chance of comp. I liked the old vshop.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 24, 2015, Original Post Date: Jan 24, 2015 ---
    Oh yeah. +1 if the vshop prices don't have to be up a certain amount
     
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    Yes, this has already been brough up 100's of time, just about ever day when one gets moved to the DENIED/WHATERVER thread cause everyone fails to read them first before them make another thread like this. But thanks for your effort and time, this is already in the process of being "changed" and put back in game "soon" aka "eventually" aka "soon as onis gets to it". Its call something like the Better VCHESTSHOP /w MeepDeliverys or something like that with the names of 3 things combined :)
    UNDERCUTTING what NOT a major problem, in fact it was not a problem at all, that was just how it works, but do agree it was annoying (for sellers) but nothing wrong with it. The "problem" was that it let player "store" LIMITLESS items on the /vshop with relative ease or no consequence. This allow players to amass millions of items and then take control of many of the items on the market. But either way there is no point at discussion any kind of changes or suggestions cause its already being done.
    It should NOT show who your buying it from in fact it should only show the lowest price of the item, NO AMOUNT, NOT FROM WHO, Nothing else but lowest price!
    An eShop is like the MeepShop that replaced the vshop/adminshop and that is now replaced by the chest shops, which will get replaced "soon"... (see first paragraph for rest....)
     
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    YESSS THANK YOU! Everything I thought. This is perfect.
     
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    The flaw is invisible imaginary monsters.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 24, 2015, Original Post Date: Jan 24, 2015 ---
    I don't think we should tie this virtual shop into chest shops at all, thats just a recipe for disaster and a waste of another year of our time.
    Who's going to explain chest shops and vchestshop to new citizens? Its hard enough getting them to understand what we have now, /buy and /sell are really easy.....Will vchestshop work in the wild? Will vchestshop require players to have towny land? Will vchestshop chests be protected from mayors just like chest shops? Will hoppers actually work with vchestshops? How many items can i sell in each vchestshop? How will the game be able to detect if a chest has been broken? Will it just delist the items? What if someone buys them right when someone breaks the chest? What if people do any of these things while the servers are lagging or are out of sync, if we can't even control warping between worlds and using hoppers how do we expect to control duping with vchestshop?
    What if i want to sell 2 beacons, do i have to put two beacons in a chest on a plot forever just to sell it? How is storing 300 double chests of items better than virtually storing them? wasn't that the advantage??? Can i put anything else in the chest? How is it better for the server load to have a plugin modifying chest data across 8 worlds? Creating a virtual shop that ties into chest shop is silly and a big giant waste of time, its like going around the block twice just to get to your back door when you leave through the front.

    Vshop as it was, along with a /cancel limit(was already coded back in '13) and a simple 1 paragraph addition to the rules. How complicated do we really need to make this....
     
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