Admin Shop

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You are absolutely right, it does. Thus the argument about it causing lag is just as valid as saying players dropping items in spawn also causes lag, which is to say, not much lag compared to the overall picture.

I personally find the system easy, click the carpet, type BUY or SELL, then input your amount. The only reason I can see reasonably is to make it so you can only buy items for the amount of room in your inventory, thus dropping no further items on the floor.

 

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Cmon u kno we cantz do that. Ya can't roll up in the thread and just like /bam it! What's rong wit u foo!

I was absolutely in love with fuzzlr's donor shop from last year, I must admit the entities are dinky, but the flexible amounts/fast transactions are def better. Can we make it click the sign and not the carpet, or spawn the entities in glass or something and have us click the glass instead of the carpet. What I'm getting at is the UI is great but the implementation is dinky.
Of course this is just an opinion. Not gonna stand on a soapbox for this one.

 

Just to add on to my suggestion:

I love buying things, that is fantastic that I can choose how much I want but selling is a hassle

 

That argument is fine, I am merely asking for people to present some substance to their claims. If they are basing it all off extra lag, then let's see some conclusive evidence to sway me.

 

Not sure if you are even reading the thread but there are way more arguments than just "it causes extra lag". There is no way we can possible prove that the new shop causes extra lag, and it shouldn't be the players job to do. Almost the whole MeepCraft community is supporting this idea so I don't get why you seem to be causing extra unneeded obstacles for its implementation.

 

But what is so hard to type:
BUY/SELL
<quantity>

 

Well I can tell you it is a lot harder and more time-consuming than simply clicking a sign.

 

It's barely harder and more time consuming.

 

You say it doesn't cause lag when your video is a bloody powerpoint presentation. And no, you are wrong, it is a lot more time consuming and a lot more complicated. It is so much easier to just click a sign and it allows the new players to understand how the shop works.

Besides, you literally just looked at one of the many points I made earlier and attempted to prove me wrong by focusing on that single point I made. Here's some advice for you, listen to the community and actually read the arguments we are making THEN post a legitimate response which isn't completely wrong.

 

I'm not saying your entire argument is invalid. I'm saying the lag is really a non-issue, considering many things contribute to it in spawn. So saying "+1 it causes lag" is a non-complete argument. (My PC is horrible). Also I am countering your claim saying it's much harder, which is it not.

I posted the video to show it's really not that complex. Click the carpet, type: buy, type the amount. It's done.

 

I know, I'm saying YOUR entire argument is invalid.

Then please explain why a majority of players are claiming that their frame rate rapidly deceases in the shop area.

Yes it is, as my above comment.

So here are the steps in the two different shop ideas:
Current:

1. Add up all your items.
2. Click carpet.
3. Type sell/buy.
4. Type the number.

Suggestion:

1. Click the sign.

Wow look at that, three steps less and probably 15 times less time-consuming. So yes it is harder.

Looks like you completely ignored gooboy's post

And once again you completely refused to acknowledge this argument which was stated in the INITIAL suggestion:

Finally, the +1 to -1 ratio is 15:1. But of course you don't seem to care any less about that because your a supermod now and you don't have to listen to anyone below you. You need to get off your high horse, start making some coherent points, and stop arguing just for the sake of arguing.

 

Idk, Deinen It took you a few attempts to buy/sell that item. It would of been faster just clicking a sign, instead of messing up by accident and putting the wrong amount, or misspelling "buy", or saying buy/sell at the wrong moment, I mean, the simple things make it seem more complex, when it really shouldn't be. I guarantee this would make players feel less stressed and less time consuming when selling/buying items from the adminshop.

 

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New shop is...well...not great
/sellall was a great command, as was /sellhand

 

I'm not particularly deciding the outcome of this suggestion mind you. I, as a player, am merely arguing against it. I personally believe that having to add your items up, and type "buy" or "sell", and then the quantity isn't that herculean of a task. I personally disbelieve that there is a massive FPS drop in that vicinity, I walked around watching my FPS, the number rose and dropped in the same intervals, regardless of where I was in spawn. I personally know that this new system allows us to monitor who bought and sold what, how much of an item was sold in a given time, etc. These tools are important because it allows us to track the numbers, and make decisions informed on that. I am not stubborn enough to disagree that no change is necessary, but I do disagree going back to signs is the solution. Additionally the current system removes any chance of a player using macros to sell their items, which I have seen done on a number of occasions.

I will attempt to address the individual points made:

It causes too much lag.

Yes, it will generate some lag. However I dispute that it's causing a massive amount of lag, I had no discerning major FPS drop in the shop alone. Spawn, for me, makes my FPS fluctuate evenly, regardless of where I am.



It is too hard to add up items

If you have 6 stacks of an item plus 24 items. It is quite simple to do //calc (6*64)+24, it will give you the answer. If you were unaware of this command, it also takes seconds to load up a calculator program and type in the variables. I disagree that is it a herculean task to add up items.

It is confusing to figure out the system.

I absolutely agree we have done an atrocious job in promoting the shop, and educating the new people on how to use it. -- This will be a project of mine to get fixed today. We can and will implement a mini-tutorial inside the shop itself, showing new, and older members how to proficiently use it.

The Spam Glitch

This could be a legitimate concern, are you referring it this triggering the automated spam filter ingame while trying to use the shop system?

 

I do want to clear up a misconception:

The reason the old spawn lagged so much is because we had so many signs. The new spawn has very very little signs, and we spread out different parts of the spawn so much that it is very infrequent that you have more than >20 signs loaded. (As opposed to the old spawn, which was compact and had >500 signs loaded at all times)

My point: Signs lag *really* bad. It is the main reason certain Towns cause massive FPS lag - because there are a ton of signs. Item stacks on the ground don't lag anywhere close to as much.

And to clear up a counterargument, ClearLag's purpose when clearing items is to account for the scenario when players may drop hundreds of thousands or even millions of items on the ground. Not the petty amount that we have on display at the shop.

 

Try loading up all of the Shop Rooms then say how it "doesn't lag".

 

Ok



There were a few moments of lag that resolved nearly instantly, resulting in a mere shudder of my screen. However, as you see my FPS did not severely drop within the shop at all, in fact, I was getting better FPS than in other areas of spawn.

 

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