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How to separate pro PVPers and hackers

Discussion in 'Unofficial Guides' started by Jaruv, Sep 20, 2014.

  1. Jaruv

    Jaruv Popular Meeper

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    Ok, so some of you know about @Ducksfanwaterloo and him getting banned recently
    (appeal: http://meepcraft.com/threads/ducksfanwaterloos-ban-appeal-not-again.33432)

    For people that are good pvpers themselves, most of them can see that he's most likely a pro pvper, and not a hacker. So I decided to make this thread, and make a list with as many ways as possible to see who's a hacker and who's a pro. To prevent too many people getting an unfair ban.

    How to spot a pro:
    1. Look at where the player is aiming, if he's aiming low (torso and legs) it's most likely a pro. If he aims for the head it's most likely to be a hacker, since most hacks are designed to hit the head to get critical hits.

    2. If there is a lot more knockback than it should be, look if there is any lag. Because if a server is lagging, you can deal 2-4 hits without the person receiving the knockback as normal, but all at once. The result can end in a non-enchanted sword knocking a person up to 15 blocks away.

    3. Even if he's head suddenly turn, this is not really a sign of aimbot/force-field. Most of the good pvpers use a high sensitivity and therefore they can easily move 90 degrees (or more) instantly, it can also be because a lot of good pvpers play in third person.

    4. If they turn at you instantly after you've hit them, it can be a good pvper that can see where you are based of what direction he's being pushed by the knockback.

    5. If you're being hit, but he's just out of you're reach it can be two things that's happening. A. You're walking backwards, if you walk backwards you're reach is reduced by 1 block. B. Since most good pvpers have a high click-ratio, witch makes them hit you as soon as you're inside their reach, making it look like they have a longer reach than you.

    How to spot a hacker:
    1. If he aims at the head, and get lot's of hits in. It's more likely to be a hacker than a pro.

    2. If the player instantly turns before you hit him, it's more likely to be a hacker.

    3. If a player always hit the closest person or is changing aim (if he moves his head a lot in different directions to the closes person) for every time he hits. It's a hacker

    4. If all players around him is hit simultaneously, it IS a hacker. (Note: This applies when 2 or 3 players+ gang up on him/her)


    If you have any more, please post them bellow and I'll add them to the lists.
     
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2014
  2. Grandblue

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    Also, a few pro papers use Third Person. That could be another excuse for the head turn.
     
  3. Cookies713

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    If possible, could you explain how to spot hacks like aimbot? Thanks
     
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  4. Jaruv

    Jaruv Popular Meeper

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    Well, why not add a list for that too. I don't know as much about it tho, so I'll just hope that someone comments a few thing bout it.

    EDIT: There, added a list for how to spot a hacker. Please post more for that list if you know something useful.
     
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  5. Grandblue

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    Aimbot is when someones head keeps turning to multiple people when being surrounded. Click aimbot is aimbot, just whenever the person CLICK, is makes his head turn. Much harder to detect. Forcefield is 5 block away hitting.
     
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  6. Cookies713

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    Would it be better to take in suspected hackers in a group then? To make it more obvious?
     
  7. Grandblue

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    Definitely, but KitPVP always has groups of people :)
     
  8. Cookies713

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    Mostly* when I'm on -.-
     
  9. redknight1

    redknight1 Well-Known Meeper

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    This will help alot
     
  10. Bluapol

    Bluapol Media Team Meeper

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    You're right m8. People will stop calling me hacker :).

    (if they read it)
     
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  12. Toostenheimer

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    I am a good pvper, but not called a "pro" pvper. I tend to mess up when I play, for instance, lag or a hacker. I've been called a hacker by an ultimate, and tons of citizens. I'm on the 50-50 on duck's ban. I am NOT calling him a killaura hacker, but he gets very suspicious when I try to 1v1 him. Head snaps often, but I don't care. If you would call him using killaura, he would be just walking and hitting someone, not flying backward if hit.
     
  13. ryker26

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    So this is what you have right?
     
  14. legendcaleb

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    If you have questions if someone hacks or not, I'm your guy, I know all the hacks in the book.
     
  15. Chaase5

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    Is there another person on the server with Chase Reach?
     
  16. 3pointone45

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    Since 75% of the server doesn't know how to spot a hacker this will help it reduce it to 70%
     
  17. Pluto258

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    That isn't necessarily a sign of a hacker. Some people turn their volume up and can here the footstep sounds. And sometimes people (especially snipers) turn around to get a 360 view of their surroundings to look for people charging them, easy targets, or other things.
     
  18. legendcaleb

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    I like when people try to interpret hacks.

    Kill aura : 1-6 block range, 1-15 click speed (Available in the values tab)
    No Knockback : Not getting knocked back, hence "no knockback"
    "Head snaps often" Look, just because someone's head has quick "snapping" doesn't mean that he hacks, a lot of players (including me) play on high sensitivity levels, and just because he's hard to beat, doesn't mean he hacks.

    Just because I know hacks, doesn't mean I use them

    Before replying to my post : Check yourself, before you Shrek yourself

    EDITS : Added head snapping, and "before replying to my post"
     
  19. Lord_Walrus

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    I don't play a lot of PVP, but when I play FPS games I tend to use a low sensitivity for accuracy.
     
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