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  1. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    How would Clinton be worse for the country than Trump?

    Also, why do you like Trump?
     
  2. Jwarian

    Jwarian Celebrity Meeper

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    I'll copy my theorem from another thread.

    Due to the nature in which upper level management values the sanctity of the economy above the quality of life of its citizens, one must conclude that this is in fact a branch of the federal government. Going on that, we will have an african american leader of meep before these "for the people" changes ever happen.

    Hornemans has had his money for nearly 16 months and I have yet to ever see him damage the citizens experience anywhere near 1% of what the admin's decisions have caused. So there goes that argument. If anything, hornemans has created jobs, purpose, something to do, fun and publicity(even youtubing) with all his earnings.

    I fear that the admins' fear of making a mistake is so great that they will never be able to actually let the economy go free again. Who cares if one dude makes millions off of a cactus farm, or villager trading. They deserve it, thats what "winning" means, and in my 23 months of meep, I have seen zero evidence to support the claim that an inflated economy means less fun.

    Another random rant, rewrite the damn rules so the delightful few who decide to become staff don't overwhelmed so much that they stop playing meep all together and just resort to copying and pasting links and stupid crap on the forums. They sign up to help, not sacrifice their whole experience. Old meep may have been mayhem but it worked and people were happy, staff were happy. EVERY staff member I talk to sounds like they're slowly dying inside. Its time to change.

    Points?
    Bring back Vshop. Fix the donor shop. Stop abusing your current staff with crappy regulations that simply make up for the trust you don't have in them(try hiring someone you trust who actually plays). Put a post on the front page telling us when our perks will actually return. I hate to say this but TS represents less than 1% of meep's donating community base, town hall meeting means nothing to the hundreds of people who left and just occasionally check in. Just give them something to read on the front page. FFS.
     
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  3. SpongeyStar

    SpongeyStar Professor in Wumbology

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    [​IMG] The culprit stands right in front of us. @2leah2
     
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  4. n00bslayer_99

    n00bslayer_99 i like kebab

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    Considering it's on trello, I don't think this will be an issue for a few years...
     
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  5. Kling

    Kling Break blocks not hearts

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    They are all bias, lets overthrow them!
     
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  6. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

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    This is not cool, dude. You are the reason new players leave the server. You are the reason the community has gone to shit. People like you are the ones that need to be banned for toxicity.

    sad.
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2016
  7. CluelessKlutz

    CluelessKlutz Badmin

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    Mob spawns in the overworld is dependent on server infrastructure which doesn't currently exist. After we have more efficient hardware and software this will be implemented. There's already a backdoor into the Extreme spawn on the back too.
     
  8. whoisnate

    whoisnate Celebrity Meeper

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    Im not saying all the staff knew but someone had to know the full reason, unless it was just Fuzzlr who knew. If thats the case then Fuzzlr needs to improve communication with his staff.
     
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  9. iiTzJDL

    iiTzJDL Legendary Meeper

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    weren't you leaving forever like a week ago just leAVE
     
  10. BaM_Nitro

    BaM_Nitro ஜ۩▬Retired▬ஜ۩

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    I use to care so much about who got added to the staff team and use to be rude to most staff members I didn't like. But I realized (2 days ago) that its not my priority to chose, and if staff want to add crap people (not saying that anyone is crap) let them do it. Its their server and we as players cant really say anything about their decisions. I am done caring about who gets staff and if staff are offline or inactive, we can always say our opinions but can't decide for them and as I mentioned before, its their team so let them do what ever they think is best for the server. On the other hand our job is to be players and enjoy playing instead of stressing out about the staff team.

    Dawn, I'm just going to let you know that as a staff member you shouldn't argue too much because those arguments are going to lead up to you saying something that you will regret saying in the future, trust me I have done this before.
     
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  11. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    The limited item alteration of /fix was not any change on the purchased perk - It was always meant for self-only usage. However, I am against any further limitations of a perk I purchased, especially since there was no agreement when I made my purchase that purchased perks can be altered, with or without warning.

    A lot of issues can be traced back to purchased perks, such as /spawner, /fix, etc - However, it's a bit late in the game to begin changing that up, especially when you've spent years advertising those purchases.

    Whatever the solution is, it has nothing to do with products I've purchased with US dollars.

    "Nerfing" or reducing any perk is akin to digitally buying an album, only to have half the tracks removed a few months later - Unacceptable.
     
  12. Kling

    Kling Break blocks not hearts

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    What has freedom and Martin Luther Kling got to do with banning hackers?
    I dont know what to say haha
     
  13. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    ^ It's also part: Argue until your mad for small changes that are logical and beneficial, lol.

    - The answer it seems is to avoid spending thousands on advertisements, and new spawns until the games you host have content. Keep updating the game-modes, adding content, to keep your regular players here, and attract new ones. Doesn't matter how pretty your apple is when you're selling the same apples everyone else is. Get a better apple.
     
  14. Epicdude141

    Epicdude141 Celebrity Meeper

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    So uh as one of maybe two only players from Exegol besides pmx who still even goes on these forums I just wanna chime in from what I saw.

    Before the revamp I would log on occasionally essentially to what felt like was a dead server.
    Which is true in a sense. There was a small dedicated "community" if you wish to call it that. I prefer to call it what it was in reality, a friend group. A group of friends keeping alive a minecraft server. People like myself would filter in and out but by in large the vast majority of the 10-20 players online were in fact just a friend group. Just look at almost any staff application filed in that time, besides Nuker it's hard to find someone who wasn't bombarded with +1's from their friends.

    In my opinion, the failure of the revamp can be broken down into 2 main points: gameplay and moderation.

    To begin, let's start with the gameplay. As mentioned in the reveal post...
    That sounds absolutely awesome, so much so that many old players came back in anticipation for this. Like viperfan said I saw names that I haven't seen since 2012 logging on the server. Old friends and new friends coming together for this. Logging on I met up with some old friends we ran quickly (as best as we could considering the servers crashing, but to no fault of anyone lol) to a remote location to set up our town. We made it underground and tried our best to hide it because of the inevitable pvp and war that was coming. However soon many baffling decisions were made including...
    • Enabling a Dynmap for a war based mode with player locations
    • Having /tfly in towns where pvp was supposed to take place
    • Turning pvp off in towns
    And that's just with pvp itself. That doesn't include other dumb gameplay decisions like
    • Having custom terrain that was an absolute joke
    • Having custom terrain that had godawful ore generation (which led to many people downloading hacked clients, myself included
    Essentially what the gamemode turned into was going to dungeons and trying to build a town up for this long rumored pvp battle that never was going to happen.

    That being said, dungeons were an absolute joke. What a complete waste of time for something that absolutely didn't mattered. Instead of pouring all this time flexing worldedit abilities and your sick nasty ability to write code, why not focus on refining gameplay elements like towny war? Not only that, but "advanced crafting" was a waste of time that nobody needed, nobody wanted and only crashed the server.

    Speaking of towny war, this was supposed to be the bread and butter of extreme. This is what we were all here for. I couldn't wait to flex my sickhunt pvp ability on these legion hoes with my friends... tnt cannons and all. So why in the hell did you guys make it so only nations could declare war? On top of that, why was it that in a world nations could only declare war were nations absolutely to the tits expensive? Especially in a world where getting money was very difficult to do?

    Essentially you could sum up the gameplay failures to: having dumb small decisions, focusing development time and energy in a complete waste of time and completely ignoring and making the main focus of the world totally inaccessible.

    "Not everybody was in the world for towny war" That's sick bro, go to normal towny where there isn't towny war.

    Okay next up we have moderation.
    Remember this quote?
    And remember how they were all friends? What moderation do you have to do on a close-tight knit server? Almost little to none. So much so that the vast majority of staff who got promoted would 100% not be in a moderation position in a more popular iteration of the server. But they were, and the revamp dropped.

    From the beginning it felt like the staff catered to a specific group of players. Many of the rule changes in extreme (no pvp in towns, no building offensive structures outside of towns) were based off Legion in specific. For a lot of us it felt like our input was being straight up ignored but those guys had a fast track to staff's ear, and that's where we get to the first major breaking point for us as players.

    When Legendcaleb and VKL got banned for something completely the server's fault, it was like a big slap in the face. I was very frustrated at this and wrote this post. The culmination of the bans and the bias of the staff led my town to write this open letter to the staff. Just a back story, the letter written was co-signed by former admins, moderators and long-time players of meepcraft back when this server was hitting literally 100x the current player base. It's not like we didn't know what it took to run a successful server.

    Things simmered down for a while but there always seemed to be that edge. That coupled with the cactus incident led to many discord calls with fuzzlr about specific staff members from our end.

    I want to make this bold because it is important. If a number of players have an issue with certain staff members, maybe ask yourself why the players have issues with that staff member instead of consistently just shutting them down. That goes for multiple staff btw.

    I think the biggest slap in the face for us was the council of warlords thread. Essentially after being kicked and banned for petty offenses by this "biased" staff, it was announced that if you did have any infractions you would be ineligible for this "council". What an absolute joke.

    To sum it up, basically inexperienced staff coupled with new players = favoritism and frustration for a vast majority of players. The others in the thread nailed it perfectly, especially Jwarian.

    Peero keeps talking about how this server used to be a small tight-knit community. For the entire time it felt like the vast majority of staff and Legion wanted it to go back to that community. And guess what? It did, with the breaking of trust of a large number of the playerbase towards the staff and the server.
    [​IMG]
    If that's all we are to you guys, then I think we aren't coming back.
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2020
  15. HotAsianBeans

    HotAsianBeans Celebrity Meeper

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    Appreciate the openness. I just don't understand the difference between:

    "Hey there are a disproportionate amount of diamonds at this spot because the Techs accidentally misplaced a portion of the world border, so lets go mine over there."

    and

    "Hey there are a disproportionate amount of diamonds at this spot because the Techs accidentally made diamond ore gen crazy high near spawn, so lets go mine over there."

    The only possible reasoning to consider these scenarios different would be if the person who first found the world border vanilla mines was actively searching around the border for an exploit. However, if this was the case, then only the original bug finder should be punished not people who were told " hey diamonds over here go get them" because they are just as innocent as people who mined near spawn because they were told ore gen was higher there.
     
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  16. Jwarian

    Jwarian Celebrity Meeper

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    I don't want to encourage this type of discussion, much could be said and all would be supposition, none of us would be here without him.
    I legitimately want fuzzlr, the server owner to:

    A: Sell the server to someone who has the time/capacity to maintain it(we are not maintaining/we are on life support).

    B: Put up the money now and hire people, plan a final campaign this fall/winter to make one last attempt to salvage the community so we can ride onis' free hosting till Microsoft kills private servers with windows 10.

    C: Spend more than one night engaging with us.
     
  17. SpongeyStar

    SpongeyStar Professor in Wumbology

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    Denied, teamspeak is a requirement. Please apply in no less than 2 weeks.
     
  18. kwagscraft

    kwagscraft Celebrity Meeper

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    you should be :)
     
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  19. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Minigames are not the solution; as we've seen for the past two years or so.

    Figuring out a way to add highly customized content into towny would leverage the server against other servers with towny, giving us a step up compared to them, and intrigue older players to come back and check it out.

    A reset is most likely the literal worst idea there is.
     
  20. CyborgZeroX

    CyborgZeroX -=Retired Staff Member=- Elder

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    We are looking into this.