Towny Reform Suggestions

diamondkid123456

Here are some random ideas I came up with while eating a Maxibon. Some are good, some are bad. You decide :D

/treq
or..
/tassist

This would be like a modreq but for town activities. For example, a resident may launch a /treq about them losing their plot. Town staff will be alerted and one will take the case. This is to simplify the process of town resolution and make sorting out issues quicker and more convenient. For example, a resident will not have to mail every staff member in the town, just do a /treq and the person who comes on the soonest takes the case.

/treq is an option for organisation.

/tbackup

/tbackup can be used for a town that may not be that active. This means that when the town falls, its backup town will take over duties. For example, if Moria fell and its backup was Athens, Athens would take over. Both parties would have to agree however and to prevent abuse, a payment of 3k per res(of the backup town) must be made. This will prevent residents from losing their plots.

/t probation

Instead of kicking a player from a town, probation could be an option. This means that the town resident will only be allowed to work on their plot/s. They will not be allowed to use town chat nor access other areas of the town. Basically, they will be muted and if possible, invisible to other players.

/t sell

This would kill techs but ill do it anyway. How about the possibility for one town to buy another and overtake its assets?

Autonomous outposts

We could have outposts that have a mayor but are owned by the main town. The main town mayor can shut down the outpost but all residents, plots and stuff will be managed by the outpost independently.

Town roads as a plot type

Kinda a stupid idea I know, but a plot type of roads could have benefits. For example, it would kinda look nicer and add additional functionality. For example, switch and itemuse could be enabled for waterways/train systems.

/rent

If a player is going to be absent from meep, they can rent their plot. The renter cannot destroy/build on the plot but can use chests. This could give an inn functionality.

Relieving Mayor

If a mayor knows he will be offline for a while, there could be a relieving mayor.

/plot clear
Could clear a plot to its original state prior to it being owned. For example, if the plot is a prebuild, u sell it and then a res griefs it, you can revert it back to the the condition it was before it was sold.

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Additional suggestions:

Town roads as a plot type
Marshy_88 suggests that road plot types cannot be bought/sold and have no town tax.

Marshy_88

If road type plots had no town tax but couldn't be bought or sold, I'd want it right away.

twomoo1119

Nice suggestions, here are my opinions:
-/treq should be added for the reasons you said
-/tbackup could work however might take a bit of work from staff
-I dont see a need for /t probation
-Autonomous outposts work fine atm, i doubt a special title is needed
-Releiving mayor seems unnessecary as well
-/Plot clear could be abused if there is say gold on the plot

If road type plots had no town tax but couldn't be bought or sold, I'd want it right away.
~ @Marshy_88

That’d be abused easilyHowever i do have a suggestion

FamousZAmos

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If road type plots had no town tax but couldn't be bought or sold, I'd want it right away.

~ @Marshy_88

no. just no. I'd love it, but there's no way to fix the exploitability.

also

Please stop making mass-suggestions for LordInateur. He keeps having to tell you not to do that, make them seperately, no matter how related they seem. You're gonna end up with a forums warning if you don't stop :/

twomoo1119

/t annex would send an annexation request to detroit. Detroit would have to confirm twice by a mayor. What would happen is that all of detroits residents would become residents of my town and all detroit land would become my towns land. If detroit’s taxes were lower than mine they would have to give 7d warning (as it would be a tax change)

Its_Madison

/treq or.. /tassist

This would be like a modreq but for town activities. For example, a resident may launch a /treq about them losing their plot. Town staff will be alerted and one will take the case. This is to simplify the process of town resolution and make sorting out issues quicker and more convenient. For example, a resident will not have to mail every staff member in the town, just do a /treq and the person who comes on the soonest takes the case.
/treq is an option for organisation.

~ @diamondkid123456

I think that /modreq is perfectly fine for situations like losing a plot. I feel like /treq would make things more complicated for new players, existing players, and staff.

/tbackup

/tbackup can be used for a town that may not be that active. This means that when the town falls, its backup town will take over duties. For example, if Moria fell and its backup was Athens, Athens would take over. Both parties would have to agree however and to prevent abuse, a payment of 3k per res(of the backup town) must be made. This will prevent residents from losing their plots.

/t probation

Instead of kicking a player from a town, probation could be an option. This means that the town resident will only be allowed to work on their plot/s. They will not be allowed to use town chat nor access other areas of the town. Basically, they will be muted and if possible, invisible to other players.
Autonomous outposts

We could have outposts that have a mayor but are owned by the main town. The main town mayor can shut down the outpost but all residents, plots and stuff will be managed by the outpost independently.
Town roads as a plot type

Kinda a stupid idea I know, but a plot type of roads could have benefits. For example, it would kinda look nicer and add additional functionality. For example, switch and itemuse could be enabled for waterways/train systems.
/rent

If a player is going to be absent from meep, they can rent their plot. The renter cannot destroy/build on the plot but can use chests. This could give an inn functionality.

~ @diamondkid123456

I don't feel like these are necessarily needed. They are neat ideas, but I think they would take too time away from other projects that the Techs are working on.

/plot clear
Could clear a plot to its original state prior to it being owned. For example, if the plot is a prebuild, u sell it and then a res griefs it, you can revert it back to the the condition it was before it was sold.

~ @diamondkid123456

I'm pretty sure that /plot clear already exists. It's part of the original Towny plugin, at least.

Zesk

i dont like tbackup that takes away from a good ol town raid

diamondkid123456

I think that /modreq is perfectly fine for situations like losing a plot. I feel like /treq would make things more complicated for new players, existing players, and staff.
~ @Its_Madison

Not really, it would ease the strain for staff. For example, if its related to losing a plot, town staff deal with reclaiming plots, not staff. Modreq's would be an additional hurdle in that case. If its town related, not server related it should be dealt with by town staff.

Anyway sorry for the combination of ideas, I now realise that they're supposed to be submitted separately and I apologise.

Its_Madison

Not really, it would ease the strain for staff. For example, if its related to losing a plot, town staff deal with reclaiming plots, not staff. Modreq's would be an additional hurdle in that case. If its town related, not server related it should be dealt with by town staff.

~ @diamondkid123456

Apologies, I briefly looked over the idea. Yes you're correct that town staff should deal with reclaiming plots (in most cases, where it is the fault of the resident for not having enough tax money), but I still think it would be confusing to new players and not worth the effort to add in.

diamondkid123456

Apologies, I briefly looked over the idea. Yes you're correct that town staff should deal with reclaiming plots (in most cases, where it is the fault of the resident for not having enough tax money), but I still think it would be confusing to new players
~ @Its_Madison

It would be more confusing/more of a hassle for new players to mail, msg and look for town staff. One command would simplify the process. All one needs to learn is the command name. It's not that hard for new players. Thx for the advice regardless.

bloodyghost

Here are some random ideas I came up with while eating a Maxibon. Some are good, some are bad. You decide [emoji1]
/treq
or..
/tassist

This would be like a modreq but for town activities.
~ @diamondkid123456

As a staff member I see a good bit of modreqs that are about town plots/commands/etc; they generally take me 30 seconds to a minute to handle. Most other questions can be handled easily through a simple written book that can be handed out to new citizens. While I think this command would be somewhat beneficial I don’t think it outweighs the time it would take to make the command

/tbackup

/tbackup can be used for a town that may not be that active. This means that when the town falls, its backup town will take over duties. For example, if Moria fell and its backup was Athens, Athens would take over. Both parties would have to agree however and to prevent abuse, a payment of 3k per res(of the backup town) must be made. This will prevent residents from losing their plots.

~ @diamondkid123456

A town falling with any significant amount of residents is rare, if not unheard of. It would be safe to say that 90% or fallen towns have 1-3 residents, who are town staff or friends of the mayor. It is easy for residents to see when the town is nearing deletion by doing /t. This would be difficult to implement I would imagine, and changes in taxes between towns could cause disgruntled residents and other complications. This would also be catastrophic to the raiding industry, as close to no towns would fall.
Towns falling is a natural process, and providing such a broad safeguard would do more hurt than help.

/t probation

Instead of kicking a player from a town, probation could be an option. This means that the town resident will only be allowed to work on their plot/s. They will not be allowed to use town chat nor access other areas of the town. Basically, they will be muted and if possible, invisible to other players.
~ @diamondkid123456

This feature gives way way way too much power to town staff. Imagine being muted and invisible in a town like legend, where a significant bit of the player base is in the town?
This would be crippling to most all players if it was used against them, and disgruntled town staff members could cause chaos. mayors or comayors could shut down players town experiences on whatever grounds they wanted.

/t sell

This would kill techs but ill do it anyway. How about the possibility for one town to buy another and overtake its assets?
~ @diamondkid123456

I feel like this is a good concept, but like you said yourself it would be difficult to implement. Perhaps guidelines could be implemented that would allow supermods or admins to transfer towns more easily and without complication.

Autonomous outposts

We could have outposts that have a mayor but are owned by the main town. The main town mayor can shut down the outpost but all residents, plots and stuff will be managed by the outpost independently.

~ @diamondkid123456

I don’t really see much of a point having independent outposts. If you don’t trust a comayor in the whole town, they shouldn’t be running a part of the town. This would defeat the purpose of having your own town.

Town roads as a plot type

~ @diamondkid123456

I could see this being a good idea, but it would require a bit of brainstorming to figure out the details +1

/rent

If a player is going to be absent from meep, they can rent their plot. The renter cannot destroy/build on the plot but can use chests. This could give an inn functionality.
~ @diamondkid123456

+1
There’s already an Inn plot type, so something like this should be implemented.

Relieving Mayor

If a mayor knows he will be offline for a while, there could be a relieving mayor.

~ @diamondkid123456

I think this isn’t a bad idea, but it wouldn’t be hard to have the mayor sign a book that says if they were gone for X time, mayor would be transferred. Then an admin could transfer ownership.

/plot clear
Could clear a plot to its original state prior to it being owned. For example, if the plot is a prebuild, u sell it and then a res griefs it, you can revert it back to the the condition it was before it was sold.

~ @diamondkid123456

This could easily be used to duplicate. Just fill a plot with gold blocks, have a res remove it, and “reset” the plot. This could also potentially kill the purpose of town builders.

Town roads as a plot type
Marshy_88 suggests that road plot types cannot be bought/sold and have no town tax.
~ @diamondkid123456

sounds like a good idea. Perhaps they could have a lower cost, but not free.

Flamedemond2

Denied, thanks for the suggestions.