Best Public Speaker

FamousZAmos

I'm saying from an ideological/meaning standpoint he gets an F on his speeches
~ @Old_Pink

A good speaker makes a strong point.
A good man makes a morally upstanding point.
Don't confuse content with delivery.

alex77034

The speaker’s ability to communicate their point effectively is the most important.

legendcaleb

I'm saying from an ideological/meaning standpoint he gets an F on his speeches. If you look at any of the other people I listed, what they said stands the test of time. Hitler's speeches certainly do not do that because of the content, which is arguably more important than the actual performance itself or the showmanship. He definitely did get lucky in rising to power, not saying it was entirely luck though. Obviously, he got lucky with the general political environment in Germany and Europe, but besides that, he got lucky with his sentencing for the Beer Hall Putsch, he got somewhat lucky with being put into position as the chancellor, and he got lucky big time with the Reichstag fire. Sometimes it takes luck in history though, and Hitler was one of history's great opportunists.
~ @Old_Pink

I don't know if the Reichstag fire was much of an accident, it served his purpose way too much imo

OKNEM

Barack Obama.

smk

Robert Kennedy. His extemporaneous speeches are some of the best I’ve heard.

Ben Shapiro is a very influential and entertaining speaker, but his style reflects being more argumentative than powerful speaking wise, but that makes since as a political figure.

If you’re talking about speaking, I’d think some philosophers ought to be in this list (and I saw some).

The Bible is a potential, having been one of the most read pieces of all time. It’s influence spreads much farther than any one speech/hearing.

Not that this is an individual speaker, but I enjoy hearing the passion behind speeches by revolutionaries/rebels.

Old_Pink

A good speaker makes a strong point.
A good man makes a morally upstanding point.
Don't confuse content with delivery.
~ @FamousZAmos

You are just asserting content doesn't matter without any reasoning, you cannot rate the delivery of a lot of highly regarded pre-film orators without using second-hand sources. As I said previously, Hitler was not taking a nation that greatly opposed everything he said and convincing them to do it through his oration. His ideological views, for the most part, fit what people wanted to hear at the time in Germany.

I don't know if the Reichstag fire was much of an accident, it served his purpose way too much imo
~ @legendcaleb

There is debate to who caused it so you may be right but its open to question

Klitch

wow that reply was as useful and constructive as a light show for Stevie Wonder
~ @Msoper(y0b)

so was this post. who tf cares who the “best public speaker” was

WhoNeedsJimbo

i mean i dunno, muhammed ali?

Old_Pink

i mean i dunno, muhammed ali?
~ @WhoNeedsJimbo

Ali is pretty tough to compare to these guys. He certainly generated a lot of relevant conversation and action during the Civil Rights and Vietnam War era as well as being a really slick talker, but he also said a lot of really controversial things, especially during his Nation of Islam phase. I think his legacy is more based in the incredible way he stood behind what he said. When Ali said he would beat Sonny Liston, then thought to be unbeatable, and he actually does it as a 7 to 1 underdog, what can you say to that? When he campaigned for Civil Rights and anti-War causes by giving up 3 years of an incredible athletic prime instead of serving in the Vietnam War, what can you say to that? When he said he would beat George Foreman, also thought to be unbeatable at the time, and he actually does it as a 4 to 1 underdog, what can you say to that? He really talked the talk and walked the walk.

Msoper(y0b)

Pericles, Socrates, Cicero, Abraham Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi, Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr, Nelson Mandela and Mike Soper would be a good short list but it's relatively Western and specifically American centric. Personally, I would go with Abraham Lincoln but I can see arguments for most of them. I think Hitler is definitely overrated just because people see him going crazy in a language they don't speak over some dramatic dubbed music on youtube.
~ @Old_Pink

That last one is legendary

iMelXP

Obama, saw him give one in person and man can he dazzle a crowd

MeepLord27

Obama, saw him give one in person and man can he dazzle a crowd
~ @iMelXP

It takes a lot of oratory skill to convince people it’s ok to vaporize children.

VKL_ReWinDzz

me daddy soper

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