Retaining players!

Jess_4Ds

I would think that retaining players should be a high priority for meepers. The last two times I seen someone request a town was pretty disturbing. The first time someone asked to join a town all they got in chat was a bunch of no, no, no. That person left the server. I was just on and someone asked to join a town and was told that there was a town open and that was followed by "don't join that town". That person also left. Now I know meep is a tight community and that is what keeps players here but the player base is dying, there are 23 people on, on a Friday night. If you don't start welcoming new players and helping them like people used to do there will be no meep. So for crying out loud invite new players to your towns, get them started, help them and maybe more would stay.

MasterTurtle

I agree with this. I saw this happen to. I love new players that continue to play, but %50 or more of the players that join Meep leave. This isn't just because they want to leave, it is because of us.

Think about how it was when you joined, the players that are reading this probably are the players that ended up staying. Make all our new players feel welcome, try making them feel just the same as you did when you first joined. We are really lacking on players now, and anything that is possible to get more back we should all work on!

I hope after reading all these threads that our whole community can try being a lot more welcome. I know that there are many players out there that aren't acting like this and are trying. I try to help as many players as I can, although I don't even have a town myself.

I hope we can all as a community work on this. Thank you.

qazini

I agree with this. I saw this happen to. I love new players that continue to play, but %50 or more of the players that join Meep leave. This isn't just because they want to leave, it is because of us.
Think about how it was when you joined, the players that are reading this probably are the players that ended up staying. Make all our new players feel welcome, try making them feel just the same as you did when you first joined. We are really lacking on players now, and anything that is possible to get more back we should all work on!
I hope after reading all these threads that our whole community can try being a lot more welcome. I know that there are many players out there that aren't acting like this and are trying. I try to help as many players as I can, although I don't even have a town myself.
I hope we can all as a community work on this. Thank you.
~ @MasterTurtle

Being the mayor of one of a large town, I can tell you it's a lot more than 50%. A significant amount of players that join Meep doesn't get to towny, and I know this because I welcome every single person by name, and typing it out already leaves an imprint. I don't see quite a few of the people that I welcomed in tab. Of those that do join towny and do join a town, most stay for a few days - maximum - and then leave. Very few people actually stay for longer. Knowing this, I try hard to get new people involved into ways of getting money and into the community. For a person to stay, they need to be, as Jess emphasized, welcomed and taken seriously, not globally denied by happy pranksters.

MasterTurtle

Being the mayor of one of a large town, I can tell you it's a lot more than 50%. A significant amount of players that join Meep doesn't get to towny, and I know this because I welcome every single person by name, and typing it out already leaves an imprint. I don't see quite a few of the people that I welcomed in tab. Of those that do join towny and do join a town, most stay for a few days - maximum - and then leave. Very few people actually stay for longer. Knowing this, I try hard to get new people involved into ways of getting money and into the community. For a person to stay, they need to be, as Jess emphasized, welcomed and taken seriously, not globally denied by happy pranksters.
~ @qazini

Well to the players who do get to towns, more than %50 of the players leave, which shouldn't be happening.

qazini

Well to the players who do get to towns, more than %50 of the players leave, which shouldn't be happening.
~ @MasterTurtle

A lot of people find towny too complicated a system to figure out; a few get frustrated by the feeling that there's almost no way to get money (should they investigate further they would discover tons of options, but a lot of people don't), and there are probably those discouraged by seeing so little people on, when in comparison with other servers. New people need to know ways to get money, at least to get their balance started up. Meepers need to be kinder, and show that both the system isn't too hard to learn and the community, though small, is definitely worth it.

[edited to clarify]

SpongeyStar

palyers

Jess_4Ds

palyers
~ @SpongeyStar

Thanks for pointing this out, been a long day lol. It is fixed.

Theawesomechief

I never realized this was a problem, but yeah, we definitely need more players and more players to stay. Most of the people who I've talked to and seen talking about say it's because of Minecraft's declining player base, but the amount of players on some other servers certainly disprove this. We should welcome people and introduce them to towns properly. If you're taught properly, towns isn't complicated. A big problem I've been experiencing personally is the sleepiness of the economy, almost like a recession. This has made it really hard for me to sell my goods. I'm sure the lack of money options is a reason for this. People get too frustrated when they try to look for ways to make money, but fail to find a way to do so. It's a cycle: People don't have money to spend, then player shops don't have a source of income, and thus won't buy things themselves.

iKitten

I sometimes go to spawn when someone joins and try to help them, and sometimes they want help and sometimes they just figure out themselves, but I always try to at least offer to help them get a town, I haven't done this recently but I have done it before, and I think it does work. It could help to get more players and help get into the community more easily and get more ready comfortable with the community quicker and not make then feel left out and feel they are just being pushed out right when they get online. Could help

MegaStufOreo

I was just on and someone asked to join a town and was told that there was a town open and that was followed by "don't join that town".
~ @Jess_4Ds

99% sure that was me that said the last part.

CryogenicNewt05

To me, I was on a two year hiatus for a reason I can't remember. One day I was on a server website and meepcraft popped up, and it seemed familiar to me, so I joined. Now, being the assistant of a city, I kinda understand. brownpatrick was once in our town, but left, as well as MasterTurtle. Both were staff members. The thing that I don't get is why people leave a town despite the fact that they are staff in that town.

7acespade

The perfect equivalent of this post is a soccer mom posting on facebook "FIX THE ECONOMY!!!"

Lilstokes

The perfect equivalent of this post is a soccer mom posting on facebook "FIX THE ECONOMY!!!"
~ @7acespade

We need communism.

Theawesomechief

We need communism.
~ @Lilstokes

We must seize the memes of production

iKitten

We must seize the memes of production
~ @Theawesomechief

Lol

CasualMow

I agree COMPLETELY I used to own a town but had to sell it to a friends town so it did not fail... and it's all because people keep saying "don't join mows town its the worst on the server" I find this annoying but also HORRIFYING THAT THE SERVER WOULD BEHAVE THIS WAY bullies must be taken care of this is a family friendly server not for the likes of people who think they're better than the rest. PERIOD!

Natsu

Because of personal likes and dislikes, people are always going to judge towns, which are basically forms of similar people grouping together. For example, when I served as a mayor in Delta, many people, including those that are in this thread, have repeatedly insulted our town in global. Of course, I'm sure that most of it was really meant to be directed to buttfly's immature behaviors, but it was really hard for us to get back our good reputation.
Most of the times, town mayors are trying to improve their towns to the maximum possible and to retain larger number of players in their towns. (Unless the town is private for a friend group) I hate to see discouragement resulting from competition. Competition can be used to improve environments, yet on Meepcraft it tends to lead towards personal criticism.
If you have not been staff in a public town, you most likely have no idea whatsoever how it is like to be running a town. How much commitment is needed to taking care of it. Owning a town right now I believe does not make huge profits either. For this, I respect the public town staff greatly for giving up their personal time where they could have made extra meebles to help others be introduced to the community.
Since I am inactive in game, I did not know that things were getting this worse, but hopefully the new tutorial (mentioned in Meep Times) will help us retain more players.

If you think it is funny to say "No" to new players just because, then you are seriously doing harm to the community, more harm than when you spam global. I hope everyone takes this seriously.

Deinen

The perfect equivalent of this post is a soccer mom posting on facebook "FIX THE ECONOMY!!!"
~ @7acespade

Nah, she wasn't. She made a perfectly valid point.

What she was saying, nicely, is you players are really dumb for wanting a better experience yet not taking any action to achieve that. Players directly contribute to the enjoyment of this server and you have to recruit and teach newbies in order to get them to stay. Otherwise they leave and ya'll still got no players which means nobody can really build a town (maybe a 3 person village) which defeats the entire point of the gamemode.

Staff could make a town to retain new players but that is added workload. You need someone like me, who made a massive town via spawning crap in and being online most every day, keeping it nice, pretty and fun and then you recruit and talk to anyone you can, then they stay. Then playercount rises, then towny is fun because people are in, you know, towns.

Also she points out that the playerbase kinda sucks, being as young as they are, where they mostly pick on eachother and spam useless things and ultimately turn off a lot of players.

Obviously I'm paraphrasing and more blunt, but that was the jist of her message.

Craps not gonna improve unless everyone does their part. Players have to welcome players and mayors have to teach the new generation of MeepCraft how things work.

MCRichHuey

Nice to see that the server is still here, sad to hear that it's declining. I logged in the other day to check things out and see if anyone I knew was still playing, but didn't see anyone on. This is a nice server, and the Towny/economic features made it fun. Hopefully the current player base will rally and grow it back to what it used to be. I'll check in again in a few months and see. ;)

7acespade

Nah, she wasn't. She made a perfectly valid point.
What she was saying, nicely, is you players are really dumb for wanting a better experience yet not taking any action to achieve that. Players directly contribute to the enjoyment of this server and you have to recruit and teach newbies in order to get them to stay. Otherwise they leave and ya'll still got no players which means nobody can really build a town (maybe a 3 person village) which defeats the entire point of the gamemode.
Staff could make a town to retain new players but that is added workload. You need someone like me, who made a massive town via spawning crap in and being online most every day, keeping it nice, pretty and fun and then you recruit and talk to anyone you can, then they stay. Then playercount rises, then towny is fun because people are in, you know, towns.
Also she points out that the playerbase kinda sucks, being as young as they are, where they mostly pick on eachother and spam useless things and ultimately turn off a lot of players.
Obviously I'm paraphrasing and more blunt, but that was the jist of her message.
Craps not gonna improve unless everyone does their part. Players have to welcome players and mayors have to teach the new generation of MeepCraft how things work.
~ @Deinen

I still stand by my point. This is probably the third (or fourth?) time someone has made a thread on this forums claiming that they can fix Meep's population problem using one simple step, just changing our attitudes. It's so pretentious for people to think that they're some sort of genius for discovering the problem when a vast majority of the community knows it already, if Jess actually read the forums or participated with the community regularly she'd realize that her idea isn't original at all - retaining players has been a huge topic of conversation nowadays. In reality the reason for the population decline is mostly due to factors beyond the player bases reach, such as declining Minecraft popularity and the fact that town servers are extremely hard to get on their feet because you need a preexisting large player base to attract new people.