Amendment to the 3-plot rule

smk

I am suggesting the original plot holder (the first one to have claimed a plot in that /towny map) to be the *only* one being able to apply to this rule. If someone goes three plots away and claims a plot, they should not be able to use the 3-plot rule to halt someone who was there first. The suggestion is that the original person should be able to surround the claims or claim what they want regardless of if someone claimed one plot to stop them from claiming.

This prevents people from being able to blackmail people for plots.

Vexmae

I think this would be good. I've heard a bit about a few people who claim near plots just to get them to surrender their plots over to them. Not naming anyone but I think that, that suggestion would be good.

Legocreator2013

If this plot blackmailing is a large enough issue as you imply, something should be done. Pehaps I am being dyslexic, but I do not understand what you say should be done about it. Blackmailing by claiming is a harsh thing for someone to do. Something should be done. I hope that a resolution is reached that does not interfere with inoccents.

smk

If this plot blackmailing is a large enough issue as you imply, something should be done. Pehaps I am being dyslexic, but I do not understand what you say should be done about it. Blackmailing by claiming is a harsh thing for someone to do. Something should be done. I hope that a resolution is reached that does not interfere with inoccents.
~ @Legocreator2013

No one loses is this situation I suggested. People can still claim outposts three plots away, but they cants claim and outpost three plots away and force you to not come within their radius. I only suggested this because it has happened to more than one person and it is enraging.

Legocreator2013

+1 I see now. I like the current three plot (chunk) rule. I believe this would eliminate the current issue.

Deinen

This is pretty much how it's always been. The person there first gets the say whether or not there is a violation and if he'd like to take action. The only real exception is when no data is available to determine who claimed first, then generally we used to just tell them both to work it out.

smk

People atm are allowed to claim three plots away from someone else's claims and be allowed by meepcraft's rules to stop you from coming near their claims. So in my case I claimed an outpost outside a beautiful build I hoped to place a town, and another player used their /fly to escape the plot. Fly to the build and claim part of it. Now said player won't move unless I give them 150k. This has happened multiple times to different people other than myself with grinders and such.

People are abusing rules to be jerks, it needs to be changed

Muunkee

I am suggesting the original plot holder (the first one to have claimed a plot in that /towny map) to be the *only* one being able to apply to this rule. If someone goes three plots away and claims a plot, they should not be able to use the 3-plot rule to halt someone who was there first. The suggestion is that the original person should be able to surround the claims or claim what they want regardless of if someone claimed one plot to stop them from claiming.
This prevents people from being able to blackmail people for plots.
~ @smk

this is already the case if the staff member involved is smart enough to check who claimed first.

smk

this is already the case if the staff member involved is smart enough to check who claimed first.
~ @Muunkee

4. Settling and Expanding

When expanding or starting your town, you must follow the following rules:

You are not allowed to settle or expand within 3 plots of another town without the approval of the mayor of the town you want to expand near, this includes outposts. You are allowed to claim a plot within 3 plots for 24 hours for raiding purposes.
You must have consent to surround another town on 3 sides or more, even if you are abiding by the 3 plot rule
You are not allowed to devalue or harass another town by creating visually offending structures, signs, or anything else deemed to be made for purpose of harassment/annoyance
Towny Spawn: You may claim only ONE side of Towny Spawn which cannot wrap plots around. The three plot limit does not count within 30 blocks of the spawn! Do not box other towns in. No signs, neon signs, traps, or ads luring players to your town. No skyscrapers or walls.

Muunkee

4. Settling and Expanding
When expanding or starting your town, you must follow the following rules:
You are not allowed to settle or expand within 3 plots of another town without the approval of the mayor of the town you want to expand near, this includes outposts. You are allowed to claim a plot within 3 plots for 24 hours for raiding purposes.
You must have consent to surround another town on 3 sides or more, even if you are abiding by the 3 plot rule
You are not allowed to devalue or harass another town by creating visually offending structures, signs, or anything else deemed to be made for purpose of harassment/annoyance
Towny Spawn: You may claim only ONE side of Towny Spawn which cannot wrap plots around. The three plot limit does not count within 30 blocks of the spawn! Do not box other towns in. No signs, neon signs, traps, or ads luring players to your town. No skyscrapers or walls.

~ @smk

You cant settle within 3 plots without permission. Meaning claimer number 2 is the rule breaker. Meaning there should not be a problem.
Why is there a problem.

smk

You cant settle within 3 plots without permission. Meaning claimer number 2 is the rule breaker. Meaning there should not be a problem.
Why is there a problem.
~ @Muunkee

The player didn't claim within the 3 plot limit, they claimed the fourth plot away, and used the 3 plot limit to keep me away

Muunkee

The player didn't claim within the 3 plot limit, they claimed the fourth plot away, and used the 3 plot limit to keep me away
~ @smk

Ahhhh.
Kay. Understand now.
Giggles.
So well the blackmailing thing should be labelled as toxicity and should be a ban 100%. I guess this would be a case-by-case basis as to why claimer #2 claimed the additional plots in the first place. If he's actually doing something with them, sure okay fine, but if not, that can be an exception to the rule

smk

Ahhhh.
Kay. Understand now.
Giggles.
So well the blackmailing thing should be labelled as toxicity and should be a ban 100%. I guess this would be a case-by-case basis as to why claimer #2 claimed the additional plots in the first place. If he's actually doing something with them, sure okay fine, but if not, that can be an exception to the rule
~ @Muunkee

If the only reason you found this plot was from leaving someone's town borders then claiming, you shouldn't be allowed to use the 3 plot rule to stop them. If the plot has use, keep it. But you don't get to mark your territory when it isn't your area to begin with. (Thus the suggestion says the newcomer doesn't get to use the 3-plot rule. If they claim a plot, fine, but they don't get the three plot border)

metr0n0me

+1, I've definitely encountered players who've done this and it's really freaking annoying, plus it defeats the purpose of the 3-plot rule.

Natsu

How about this:
-No claiming within the 3 plot range of a town without permission
-If someone claimed a plot outside of the 3 plot range, the original town can expand inside the 3 plot range only when the other town is not making use of the plot
-When the original town needs to expand out of the 3 plot range, and the 2nd town is not making use of their plot, the 2nd town has to remove the claim so that the original town can claim it
-Staff considers what's making use and what's not

If the last 2 is added then +1
This is so that towns cant force another active town to move

smk

How about this:
-No claiming within the 3 plot range of a town without permission
-If someone claimed a plot outside of the 3 plot range, the original town can expand inside the 3 plot range only when the other town is not making use of the plot
-When the original town needs to expand out of the 3 plot range, and the 2nd town is not making use of their plot, the 2nd town has to remove the claim so that the original town can claim it
-Staff considers what's making use and what's not
If the last 2 is added then +1
This is so that towns cant force another active town to move
~ @Natsu

Or we can take my suggestion that whomever found it first gets it.

CluelessKlutz

Accepted!

CluelessKlutz

Completed! The rule has been changed to: You are not allowed to settle or expand within 3 plots of another town without the approval of the mayor of the town you want to expand near, this includes outposts. You are allowed to claim a plot within 3 plots for 24 hours for raiding purposes. The original town is also allowed to expand within this 3 plot limit.