SkyWars Issues

Lilstokes

I think it's no secret that SkyWars has some problems with it, so I'm making a thread to point them out and put them in one place. Not trying to be a jerk here, just making a list for convenience.

No point in going to mid. Some maps have no mid chests, and even if they do, the loot is the same.
Enderpearls in starter chests.
Loot that has an insane gap in usefulness. Example: finding a diamond sword and wooden one in the same chest.
No lapis for enchanting.
Maps look good, but are too spread out. This is why enderpearls are such common loot, but two wrongs don't make a right.
Elytras existing.
Kits are unbalanced and not fun to play against.
Whacking sticks existing. Any items with knockback and especially knockback II are unfair and encourage not having a plan or strategy. Who needs that when you can win in one hit?
Teams are very weird. Being put with a random person is really frustrating, as they can loot all chests and fart off to leave you on your own. Not to mention they might just be bad.

Again, just making this so a list exists. Apologies if someone has already made one.

oraleDK

The main thing for me is how oversized the maps are. Sure, they look beautiful, but a skywars map isn't supposed to be huge. The islands should be small, simple, and really not more than 5-6 blocks from each other. You should definitely easily be able to see everyone in your game.

I agree on the mid thing too, the loot should be better than it is on the islands. Also, on that subject, there should not be diamond armor in ANY chests (including mid). Diamond swords should be extremely rare. And yes, remove the kb stick, elytras, etc. But keep enderpearls. They should be a lot more rare than they are now, but 1-2 people per game should start with them.

As for the lapis and diamonds to make diamond armor, I think all islands should have a simple mineable area below them, with lapis, diamonds etc.

On the kits, I would say there should really only be 2, instead of the seeming hundreds (small exaggeration) there are now. An archer and a Swordsman, both with equal armor, one with an iron sword, one with a wooden sword, a bow and 10 arrows.

And the teams, oh god the teams... Please just remove them.

Also would it be an idea to move this thread to suggestions?

Lilstokes

Forgot to suggest some form of time limit or deathmatch to avoid camping.

Toostenheimer

Example: finding a diamond sword and wooden one in the same chest.
~ @Lilstokes

Got a diamond and iron sword in my first game of SkyWars. Kind of find that ridiculously insane.

Now, I played SkyWars on another server where all games were played on one map. The map had islands and the middle had loot. No one had enderpearls, usually wood and other useful resources. Each island had small bits of ore underneath. Some coal, some iron. Only one island didn't get any resources or ore, it was just dirt. Almost every player that got that island used the blocks to make a bridge to the loot, and were usually the ones to win the game.

I don't like how SkyWars was made here. It made me feel kind of spoiled when I played my first game. I mean, you don't get two leather pieces of armor and elytra with a diamond sword and some enderpearls to add on to it.

The maps also made me feel spoiled. There was just too much detail put into it. It's not that difficult to make a simple SkyWars map, honestly.

That's just my opinion on SkyWars for now. Only played one game, may try it out again sometime.

Math_Pro

I agree, there are many issues with Skywars right now. I have come up with possible solutions and have posted them below.

No point in going to mid. Some maps have no mid chests, and even if they do, the loot is the same.

Maps are really weird in different ways. Some have chests in mid, and some don't. Pretty much the first person to get to mid in a map where there are chests is the victor. The loot in the center is way too good and can easily be used to dominate the game. Actually, in fact the chests on your spawning island have the same loot as the chests in the center. I remember when I got a diamond helmet, diamond chestplate, diamond boots, and chain leggings out of my spawn chests. Obviously, you know who won.

Enderpearls in starter chests.

Oh my god, I received 7 enderpearls once from a chest. This is also another winning factor. With enderpearls, you can simply teleport to mid and get an insane amount of loot or just hunt down people easily. Like, what's the point of bridges and snowballs now?
We should reduce the commonness of enderpearls.

Loot that has an insane gap in usefulness. Example: finding a diamond sword and wooden one in the same chest.

This is a huge problem right now. I found 4 diamond boots in 3 chests. Instead, add a mechanism that inserts non-repeated unstackable items. For stackable items, keep the plugin the say it currently is.

No lapis for enchanting.

Exactly. No point for enchantment tables, exp bottles, and no points for some kits that include these items. My suggestion is by having lapis already in the slot when you select the enchantment table.

Maps look good, but are too spread out. This is why enderpearls are such common loot, but two wrongs don't make a right.

This is the part in which I have to criticize the most. Maps are really beautiful. BUT, they don't fit the standards for a "appropriate" Skywars theme. Example: In the solar system map, there are only FOUR islands. Yes, I understand that it depends on the player count but, the bridges are already there connecting from island to island on that map! And, nothing is in center making it useless to go there!

Elytras existing.

Elytras literally mess up the point of Skywars and using one is basically committing suicide. I'd say nerf them.

Kits are unbalanced and not fun to play against.

Oh my god again. Some kits are extremely so hard to compete against and have a lot of different powers that are also win factors such as starting off with enderpearls! Some kits need to be nerfed.

Whacking sticks existing. Any items with knockback and especially knockback II are unfair and encourage not having a plan or strategy. Who needs that when you can win in one hit?

I'm really done with these. Please just nerf them. Seriously, islands are extremely small and one hit can knock someone off and island earning you easy $300 + if you win, another $1000.

Teams are very weird. Being put with a random person is really frustrating, as they can loot all chests and fart off to leave you on your own. Not to mention they might just be bad.

I kinda like teams, just not being placed with a random person. I'd personally say add a command like /team (name) to send a team request to someone. On their screen, it would say "(name) has requested to be on your team! Do /team (name) to accept their invite!

These are just my opinions on Skywars.
Thank you @Lilstokes for pointing these problems out. Skywars need some balance changes.

Acceleradiance

Forgot to suggest some form of time limit or deathmatch to avoid camping.
~ @Lilstokes

I recommend a healthy dosage of ender dragons or TNT rain

Kling

Like the thread, the map degenerates after a certain time period but that time frame is huge. @GroovyGrevous would not get off his damn island so I ran to the edge of the map :punch: