Deleting Alpha (and maybe Beta)

Photoave12

If we keep alpha and beta, these two worlds would eventually die out.
~ @7acespade

then why don't we wait until the alpha and beta worlds have 0 players online consistently and THEN delete them?

7acespade

then why don't we wait until the alpha and beta worlds have 0 players online consistently and THEN delete them?
~ @Photoave12

Because, as I said at least ninety times, having three town worlds and two economies is very confusing. A new player will probably choose their towns world by random, and when they discover that they can't join an alpha or beta town due to lack of players, they will leave the server.

CluelessKlutz

Because, as I said at least ninety times, having three town worlds and two economies is very confusing. A new player will probably choose their towns world by random, and when they discover that they can't join an alpha or beta town due to lack of players, they will leave the server.
~ @7acespade

I agree, it is very confusing at first, but that can be said for a lot of servers.

The idea of just deleting Alpha/Beta is absolutely absurd. The past few days, I've been watching the Tab in Beta. Every day, it goes back up by 2-3 players. Even with the player count lowering a tad day-to-day, Beta continues to increase in popularity.

If things were kept exactly as they were now, then yes, I'd be forced to say delete them, but here's the thing: things aren't done. A new shop and Wild for them are already being worked on, and this solves the biggest problem to it.

My own idea for server development is to make the two economies completely separate, in both your /bal and the playstyle. Pretty soon, people will get bored of Gamma, because it's "more of the same," and go back to Beta and Allha where they already have stuff. Therefore, I believe we should keep A/B as a standard Towny area, plain and simple. On the other hand, Gamma should become a specialized form of Towny, completely unique to Meep. This kind of split Eco would allow us to appeal to players of both worlds.

Huge -1

Photoave12

The past few days, I've been watching the Tab in Beta. Every day, it goes back up by 2-3 players. Even with the player count lowering a tad day-to-day, Beta continues to increase in popularity.
~ @CluelessKlutz

we need to basically stop all new players from joining alpha and beta so its only accessible to anyone who was using it before new spawn. then new players wouldn't see "/warp townsA and /warpp townsB" in their /warp menu and everything would be focussed on gamma. therefore eliminating new player confusion without deleting alpha and beta outright.

Kling

-1 I still work on my Beta town when I have free time.

CluelessKlutz

we need to basically stop all new players from joining alpha and beta so its only accessible to anyone who was using it before new spawn. then new players wouldn't see "/warp townsA and /warpp townsB" in their /warp menu and everything would be focussed on gamma. therefore eliminating new player confusion without deleting alpha and beta outright.
~ @Photoave12

That's basically what's already been done. The goal of Gamma was to give people a "reset," while allowing people to continue to build up in A/B. G was not supposed to close new players off from A/B, but give them the opportunity to start over if they wished, or they could join the older worlds.

Photoave12

That's basically what's already been done. The goal of Gamma was to give people a "reset," while allowing people to continue to build up in A/B. G was not supposed to close new players off from A/B, but give them the opportunity to start over if they wished, or they could join the older worlds.
~ @CluelessKlutz

but new players can still join and use towns A and B. what i was proposing is to set anything connected with the old eco as whitelist only and add only players who used A/b when it was the main eco. then old players can still go back (like @Kling ) but new players wouldn't be able to go back. then, when nobody uses or expresses interest in using a/b, THEN delete it. (maybe let players download the world files for their towns for use in single player?)

CluelessKlutz

but new players can still join and use towns A and B. what i was proposing is to set anything connected with the old eco as whitelist only and add only players who used A/b when it was the main eco. then old players can still go back (like @Kling ) but new players wouldn't be able to go back. then, when nobody uses or expresses interest in using a/b, THEN delete it. (maybe let players download the world files for their towns for use in single player?)
~ @Photoave12

Here's the thing, we're not trying to discourage players from going to A/B. I, for one, am staying in Beta, permnantly. As I said, I see the future of A/B in being plain, vanilla Toeny, where Gamma becomes a specialized form of it.

KlutchDecals

We could have made 50% of people happy and 50% of people mad, OR!

Make everyone 50% happy.
I went with the second route and we will deal with servers as time goes by. For now, just have fun!

Llamazon

+1 lol all these people not wanting their precious alpha/beta towns to die

STARTING FRESH IS FUN

Toostenheimer

its time to stop
~ @AwesomeAdoGamer

filthy frank isn't gonna help you, bud

Llamazon

wait
http://meepcraft.com/threads/towns-wild-a-b-update.61210/
technically, doesn't this make Alpha and beta useful again?

AwesomeAdoGamer

Yeah, we'll lose players because we'll delete two obsolete servers that have no economy whatsoever and only memories. Beta and Alpha are already dead and always will be, because it's isolated from the main server.
~ @7acespade

Um no theres still towns like dax, ebon, and the nation of mooville that have millions in a/b money and possibly millions when transferred to gamma.

filthy frank isn't gonna help you, bud
~ @Toostenheimer

Lol.

7acespade

Um no theres still towns like dax, ebon, and the nation of mooville that have millions in a/b money and possibly millions when transferred to gamma.
Lol.
~ @AwesomeAdoGamer

"Alpha and beta have no playerbase or economy"
"No towns such as Dax have enough money to live for a while"

What?

AwesomeAdoGamer

"Alpha and beta have no playerbase or economy"
"No towns such as Dax have enough money to live for a while"
What?
~ @7acespade

You are being toxic, I recommend you stop before u get attention of more high staff.

7acespade

You are being toxic, I recommend you stop before u get attention of more high staff.
~ @AwesomeAdoGamer

Im not being toxic when Im questioning the existence of two empty servers

CluelessKlutz

Im not being toxic when Im questioning the existence of two empty servers
~ @7acespade

That's the thing, they're not empty. People have been playing Gamma more because it's new and fully operational. Thing is, more and more people are coming back to A/B with the Wild back (broken already, lol). As long as they make A/B functional, people will continue to play them.

7acespade

That's the thing, they're not empty. People have been playing Gamma more because it's new and fully operational. Thing is, more and more people are coming back to A/B with the Wild back (broken already, lol). As long as they make A/B functional, people will continue to play them.
~ @CluelessKlutz

Oh, I was not aware there was a alpha/beta wild

CluelessKlutz

Oh, I was not aware there was a alpha/beta wild
~ @7acespade

It's sort of broken right now, but it was added. (Thinks it is Towny Wild right now) Just do /wild while in Alpha or Beta to warp there.

Photoave12

I Think that @KlutchDecals or someone should lock this since this it turning into such a huge argument and may end up dividing meepcrafts players just like the reset-or-no-reset debate did.

We have seen how well the staff can work something out like they did with the aforementioned reset debate. Why don't we trust their experience and not continue trying to divide the community?

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