armor stands disappearing???

Photoave12

Sorry for not following the format, but i believe i have included all the information on the original form..

So i (Photoave12) am making a store in meep (yes, another one), and i am trying to label things with armor stands to keep it organized. however, theres this one section of my store where it seems like all the armor stands keep disappearing.

the first time it happened was about 2 days ago (8/6/16-ish) and i thought nothing of it, so i replaced the lost stand and placed another one in place of the lost one (which was about where the "test" stand is in the screenshot) as well as the "building blocks" one.

after the second one disappeared, i checked the "building blocks" one, which i had placed at almost the same time and it was still there. after replacing that second one i modrequed and @Deljikho began trying to find out what happened. (this is when the test one was placed (it had all the same settings as the ones i had lost))

some time after the test one disappeared, i noticed that two armor stands that i had placed on an upper balcony (the /vote notes section) had disappeared but not the third (there should be one just above the center of each rowlineof chests)...

this is when i started to think that it had to do with the plot... so i checked plot perms...

(these perms were on every plot). Other plots aren't having this issue...

now i have lost at least 4 armor stands and have no idea why.

note: the armor stands appear fine immediately after i place them, however they only disappear after i teleport away (usually to the wild) maybe this has something to do with clearlag or some kind of server process that un-loads the world from memory or something? (my inner tech just spilled out there, sry if you don't understand that)

Pmx728

This is due to too much lag. To stop this from happening I suggest removing some item frames and armour stands.

Muunkee

This is due to too much lag. To stop this from happening I suggest removing some item frames and armour stands.
~ @Pmx728

Sort of - its due to the entity limit. If you have like 50 ish or more, they will start despawning. Entities include stands, item frames, mobs, plants, and most other things that arent a block.

Photoave12

Sort of - its due to the entity limit. If you have like 50 ish or more, they will start despawning. Entities include stands, item frames, mobs, plants, and most other things that arent a block.
~ @Muunkee

crap. do you fnow exactly what this limit is and if it is per plot/per chunk?

freaking cow spawner in my front yard...do signs and players count as entities?

Muunkee

crap. do you fnow exactly what this limit is and if it is per plot/per chunk?
freaking cow spawner in my front yard...do signs and players count as entities?
~ @Photoave12

No one really knows what the exact limit is.
I don't think they do, they might, players probably do

Photoave12

so how come other people can make a shop without hitting these limits...

[is it]per plot/per chunk?
~ @Photoave12

across all 4 plots i have (currently):

2 flower pots
11 armor stands
~101 item frames (a bunch got removed from my notes area)

Edit 142 item frames, forgot a floor

edit: removing empty frames

edit total losses to date: 3 armor stands, ~8 item frames, onis dis note, weird dis note, mushroom note, rainbow sheep note

Muunkee

so how come other people can make a shop without hitting these limits...across all 4 plots i have (currently):
2 flower pots
11 armor stands
~101 item frames (a bunch got removed from my notes area)
Edit 142 item frames, forgot a floor
edit: removing empty frames
edit total losses to date: 3 armor stands, ~8 item frames, onis dis note, weird dis note, mushroom note, rainbow sheep note
~ @Photoave12

It is per chunk yes, people do it by spreading it out and using as few as possible

Photoave12

so a chunk = a plot? they're both 16x16 right?"Item frames, paintings, armor stands, ender crystals and lead knots are unique in that, although they are entities, they align to the block grid and are completely immobile." from minecraft wiki, in case anyone is interested

Muunkee

so a chunk = a plot? they're both 16x16 right?"Item frames, paintings, armor stands, ender crystals and lead knots are unique in that, although they are entities, they align to the block grid and are completely immobile." from minecraft wiki, in case anyone is interested
~ @Photoave12

correct, but entity also includes anything that moves

Muunkee

Is this still an issue after removing more entities from the plot?

Photoave12

No. Although it would be nice to know the exact entity limits per plot

Muunkee

No. Although it would be nice to know the exact entity limits per plot
~ @Photoave12

I'd tell you if I knew. I might try testing this sort of thing in the near future.
Moving toresolved !