Meep Behavioral Rewards System

WeAreNumberUno

One to help new players that are joining the server.
~ @PhoenixPuppy

How? it seems like it would help people who are well known in the community for helping out, not new players.

town owners not paying taxees
~ @PhoenixPuppy

i see i thought you ment residents, however still do you expect new people to have towns?

that was a flaw in my suggestion that I wrote in five minutes
~ @PhoenixPuppy

do we really want a suggestion that was wrote in five minutes? shouldn't we have a suggestion that are well thought out. not whipped together.

PhoenixPuppy

How? it seems like it would help people who are well known in the community for helping out, not new players.
~ @WeAreNumberUno

Okay, I don't even play Meepcraft. So I'm just making this as a *suggestion* to try and help meepcraft. As I said in previous posts I made this in five minutes, something that just popped into my mind that we could get some extra community input on. On your comment, I like IFOC's suggestion.

Again I agree with you that positive players should be rewarded and I understand that you said this thread was kinda a rough draft. For this reason I think the best way to avoid any flame would to recognize the "Meeper of the week" and "staff member of the week" on any news threads without any monetary reward. This removes anyone's incentive to be "fake" just to get meebles.
~ @IFartOnChilren

i see i thought you ment residents, however still do you expect new people to have towns?
~ @WeAreNumberUno

As far has town taxes go, my thinking was more for town owners not paying taxees for a month. Which would mean they could expand and provide more plots for new players. I understand everyone doesn't own a town, that was a flaw in my suggestion that I wrote in five minutes.
~ @PhoenixPuppy

do we really want a suggestion that was wrote in five minutes? shouldn't we have a suggestion that are well thought out. not whipped together.
~ @WeAreNumberUno

Okay i have no idea what i've done to offend you.

The whole idea of suggestions is to get community input. Everything starts at an idea and is worked out from there.

Would you rather have a suggestion that was completely 100% made by PhoenixPuppy, or a suggestion that was put together by all the players of Meepcraft.

Also why would I spend hours making a suggestion that's just going to get instantly shot down with negative comments.

It's a suggestion. Any suggestion can be taken by the staff team and reworked, that's all I was trying to do.

XxNine_TailsxX

This would be unfair because I would win every year

PhoenixPuppy

This would be unfair because I would win every year
~ @XxNine_TailsxX

metr0n0me

Kinda against further driving a class division in the community, we have enough as it is.
~ @Jwarian

what? of good people and bad people?

I actually don't mind this suggestion; however, it doesn't necessarily need to be a plugin--a forum post with a wealthy sponsor would work as well, right?

builderjunkie012

No, if you think someone has been an outstanding member of the community, you should send them a pm, /mail, forum convo, ect. Theres no need for a server/staff-run program for this

what? of good people and bad people?
I actually don't mind this suggestion; however, it doesn't necessarily need to be a plugin--a forum post with a wealthy sponsor would work as well, right?
~ @metr0n0me

Are you my doppleganger

metr0n0me

No, if you think someone has been an outstanding member of the community, you should send them a pm, /mail, forum convo, ect. Theres no need for a server/staff-run program for this
Are you my doppleganger
~ @builderjunkie012

I think it might be cool if staff at least nominally sponsored something like this (maybe a sticky post on the top of the forums?), as it would help publicize the program a bit.

Jwarian

I like the idea, but I can understand why people are against it because of all the reasons already stated above. One thing that I don't agree with is how this would cause a class division.
How can you say that this is a bad idea because it would divide people due to their class? I think you're arguing the wrong point here. Behavior class is not related to one's ingame wealth. What is wrong with rewarding players who are well behaved and eloquent, and not rewarding those who are being toxic?
Anyway, I can see how one would argue with the fact that well behaved people are already awarded in many cases with a staff position. That is a fair argument. I just don't think this idea would divide anyone in a malicious way.
Maybe something we can do as an alternative to this suggestion is make a very minimal meeble reward(if any), and have a Meeper of the Week on the news that the staff come out with, where the member is just recognized with his/her positive contribution. I know there is another news thread that is in development by OKNEM, so maybe he can pick a new person every week as well. In my opinion this would only help spread positivity around the forums.
~ @IFartOnChilren

Well in short, toxic players shouldn't be here. Therefore a system designed to differentiate people from them is redundant.
I think simply removing the players that cause issue has always been the best solution. Perhaps the desire to segregate the people at the moment is generated by too large a population of said "toxic" players and we(helpers) just need to do our job better.

metr0n0me

Well in short, toxic players shouldn't be here. Therefore a system designed to differentiate people from them is redundant.
I think simply removing the players that cause issue has always been the best solution. Perhaps the desire to segregate the people at the moment is generated by too large a population of said "toxic" players and we(helpers) just need to do our job better.
~ @Jwarian

Perhaps we need to deal with the root cause of the toxicity? In general, mass toxicity is indicative of a greater underlying problem that we need to address--see the other threads.

I don't see why encouraging players to help each other out is necessarily a bad thing; at worst it reduces the burden on the staff team and decreases /modreq wait times, because the community would answer players' questions and concerns.

The chance to become staff work your a** off and not get any reward besides a few thank yous here and there, and the feeling of self accomplishment. For some that's enough for some its not. What about those who don't want to become staff? Or those who use to be staff, and are done with it.
~ @PhoenixPuppy

there are no "thank yous here and there" anymore D:

IFartOnChilren

Well in short, toxic players shouldn't be here. Therefore a system designed to differentiate people from them is redundant.
I think simply removing the players that cause issue has always been the best solution. Perhaps the desire to segregate the people at the moment is generated by too large a population of said "toxic" players and we(helpers) just need to do our job better.
~ @Jwarian

Qaws

The chance to become staff work your a** off and not get any reward besides a few thank yous here and there, and the feeling of self accomplishment. For some that's enough for some its not. What about those who don't want to become staff? Or those who use to be staff, and are done with it.
Or here's an idea, why not even add staff in with them?
My main point is that we should be rewarding people who are being a positive influence in the community.
You could also use it as a bonus point in staff applications, a way to get your name out there so when you apply for staff you are even more well known.
"I have been nominated for X amount of time for Player of the month".
"Last month I earned the player of the month reward".
~ @PhoenixPuppy

Again I agree with you that positive players should be rewarded and I understand that you said this thread was kinda a rough draft. For this reason I think the best way to avoid any flame would to recognize the "Meeper of the week" and "staff member of the week" on any news threads without any monetary reward. This removes anyone's incentive to be "fake" just to get meebles.
~ @IFartOnChilren

@PhoenixPuppy
A question that comes up is
Can someone win multiple times?
If so, do they just keep receiving more meebles?

My concern for this is discouragement for other players to try to strive for this if winners can be repeated.
Subsequently, all motives are lost to stay participative and a good role-model after being won.

IFartOnChilren

@PhoenixPuppy
A question that comes up is
Can someone win multiple times?
If so, do they just keep receiving more meebles?
My concern for this is discouragement for other players to try to strive for this if winners can be repeated.
Subsequently, all motives are lost to stay participative and a good role-model after being won.
~ @Qaws

A simple solution to this "problem" would be to suggest to the owners of the news thread if they want to add this aspect. It is their decision if they want to or not.

The way I see it this thread was more of a way to facilitate a discussion about finding a way to recognize players for their positive contributions to the server rather than outlining a reward program. The title may be a bit misleading at this point

PhoenixPuppy

@PhoenixPuppy
A question that comes up is
Can someone win multiple times?
If so, do they just keep receiving more meebles?
My concern for this is discouragement for other players to try to strive for this if winners can be repeated.
Subsequently, all motives are lost to stay participative and a good role-model after being won.
~ @Qaws

Perhaps if they win once they can't win for another (X) number of weeks/months.

IGotBored

And yet you don't. You just sit here and troll on the forums spouting ignorant jabber you know nothing about.
~ @PhoenixPuppy

Well you're quite right on one end, I didn't get paid for my grades, I got them because I'd be punished if I didn't

I do appreciate the advanced diction you used though, although the only word that seems to be relevant there is "spouting"

I'm actually not ignorant, although your bias seems to prevent you from admitting that. I know a lot about a lot of things. If I'm really a troll, there is a handy little ignore button next to my name and I implore you to click it.

And I'm not sure what your definition of trolling is. At worst I'm mean, and sorry I'm not gonna hold your hand and carry a "everybody's a winner mentality". Again, ignore me if you feel the need, I have no issue with continuing to "spout ignorant jabber" if that's truly what you want

I appreciate the keyboard dual though, work on your form.

Lord_Walrus

My idea for this to create less bias is to make a plugin that players can use to refer someone (once a week).

Scenario:
Player1: Here's some wheat. *hands wheat*
Player2: Thanks!
Player2: */refer Player1 Gave me wheat*

Then after the week, month, year whatever, we can tally up the votes for it. yay

Muunkee

My idea for this to create less bias is to make a plugin that players can use to refer someone (once a week).
Scenario:
Player1: Here's some wheat. *hands wheat*
Player2: Thanks!
Player2: */refer Player1 Gave me wheat*
Then after the week, month, year whatever, we can tally up the votes for it. yay
~ @Lord_Walrus

Lots of bias
lots of paid refers
Alts
Staff would get like a dozen extra in a day

Deinen

People should not be rewarded for doing what is simply expected of them.

Lord_Walrus

Lots of bias
~ @Muunkee

Within restriction to the OP (Ban limit), and a proper policy this wouldn't happen.

lots of paid refers
~ @Muunkee

Again, with a policy that would be put in place with the suggestion.

Alts
~ @Muunkee

LOL. Ever heard of an IP check.

Staff would get like a dozen extra in a day
~ @Muunkee

Exempt.

This is also why I included a reason, gives less leeway for "corrupt" votes.

I'm also kind of with @Deinen on this, but at the same time, we need to acknowledge that our playerbase is mostly children under ~12. I think they'll act better to get the award which could lead to a more pleasant community.

LadyCassandra

Your kindness is rewarded based on what people see. End of story.
Honestly, all you have to do is just be nice - the rewards will come to you naturally. Sure, it might take some time, but if your goal on Meep is not to gain something for yourself but for other you'll realize in the end you get a lot out for yourself as well.
Take me, for example. I got popular so fast that even staff thought I was an old player coming back and messing with my friends. But in truth, I'd never even stepped into the server once before. As a citizen I gave out what I called "starter kits" to newer players because I'd found a way to use the leather I'd gathered from the original /pwarp food. For that reason I was gifted VIP. Apparently I'd made a positive impact on the forums (something like that) and in return I was given Premium. A month later, I ranked up to Exclusive and I didn't see it coming even after Lordusan had been trying to find a rank seller many weeks before and was constantly asking for one in shout. When I got Exclusive cooey privately messaged me saying he promised he would get me Elite. Sure enough, during the Christmas sale, I got Elite. Supreme was yet another gift, but that's another story. About a week before I was promoted to Mod Lordusan had found yet another rankseller who bought me Ultimate. On top of that, I was gifted many millions of meebles and as of right now I am the fastest Celebrity Member on the forums And for some reason a lot of guys seem to be really attracted to me. Did I do anything big? No. So what did I do? I don't have an explanation aside from being nice. People do notice your actions! You simply need the right mindset of giving and not getting. Only then will you realize how much you get out of it.

Lord_Walrus

Your kindness is rewarded based on what people see. End of story.
Honestly, all you have to do is just be nice - the rewards will come to you naturally. Sure, it might take some time, but if your goal on Meep is not to gain something for yourself but for other you'll realize in the end you get a lot out for yourself as well.
Take me, for example. I got popular so fast that even staff thought I was an old player coming back and messing with my friends. But in truth, I'd never even stepped into the server once before. As a citizen I gave out what I called "starter kits" to newer players because I'd found a way to use the leather I'd gathered from the original /pwarp food. For that reason I was gifted VIP. Apparently I'd made a positive impact on the forums (something like that) and in return I was given Premium. A month later, I ranked up to Exclusive and I didn't see it coming even after Lordusan had been trying to find a rank seller many weeks before and was constantly asking for one in shout. When I got Exclusive cooey privately messaged me saying he promised he would get me Elite. Sure enough, during the Christmas sale, I got Elite. Supreme was yet another gift, but that's another story. About a week before I was promoted to Mod Lordusan had found yet another rankseller who bought me Ultimate. On top of that, I was gifted many millions of meebles and as of right now I am the fastest Celebrity Member on the forums And for some reason a lot of guys seem to be really attracted to me. Did I do anything big? No. So what did I do? I don't have an explanation aside from being nice. People do notice your actions! You simply need the right mindset of giving and not getting. Only then will you realize how much you get out of it.
~ @LadyCassandra

So what you're saying is that if you're nice and nobody sees you, you don't get rewarded?

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