Remove trade chat

Dockson

As the title would suggest, remove the trade chat.

What's it purpose? To give staff a reason to pester people who accidentally/unknowingly advertise something in the global chat? Like there is a huge difference between a green T or red G at the side of the chat where no one ever looks. I'd imagine that if someone says "/pwarp x for y", the intention is not to engage in a conversation, but advertise, so I ask again: what's the purpose of the trade chat? Why not add a "help" chat for questions? Or an offtopic chat, parkour chat... etc and keep the shout for people saying hi, bye and what they had for lunch.

Dozens of times daily I see people being warned to not advertise in shout... It's in the rules. So basically any new player will not read them when they join the server. (Yeah, yeah Deinen, this is a business, customers should read the Terms and Conditions and follow them... Not my point really). My point is, staff is doing a pointless job, for a pointless rule because of a pointless chat.

Please remove it.

The_Unkown675

It's useless

Draqq

Although my question for the staff is what exactly do they want to see in global chat?

i8ryan

+1 AGREE i'd enjoy a off topic chat. where we wouldnt get a staff member telling us to use fourms (Who actually would go to fourms to actually talk there when i want to talk in minecraft? ''

LIAHKIM55

trade chat. What's it purpose?
~ @Dockson

I agree

Imperfectly

I suggested this b4 and it was Denied. +1.

@Jalapenos, Accept this so u cant ban me for it

cooey

+1
The trade chat is useless

anikin ultimate

+1 it has no use, it jujst makes staff stress over something so small and if you don't do it you get in trouble. Why? No use.

Jalapenos

It makes it so that you can toggle off advertisements but still be integrated with conversations in global. In my opinion, its a cool feature and useful to people who dont want to see ads, but still want to talk to the community.

NuckleMuckle

-1

Trade chat was requested by users, and gives everyone an extra bit of control over their experience, thanks to separate commands /gtoggle and /ttoggle.

Global ON, Trade ON: See all messages for maximum community experience.

Global OFF, Trade OFF: Minimal measaging. I find this helpful sometimes while parkouring, and while having discussions in local with a new town resident or a mod on a /modreq.

Global OFF, Trade ON: Allows people to be notified of new shop openings and other financial opportunities while tuning out the latest toxic nonsense about Trump, which happens at least once a day.

Global ON, Trade OFF: Allows people to chat/clown without being bothered by trade spam.

Getting rid of trade chat means losing the last two options.

Dockson

+1 AGREE i'd enjoy a off topic chat. where we wouldnt get a staff member telling us to use fourms (Who actually would go to fourms to actually talk there when i want to talk in minecraft? ''
~ @i8ryan

Yes, that is a totally different, but still an issue worth mentioning. I have seen moderators telling people to "go to forums" while talking about totally acceptable matters in shout.

It makes it so that you can toggle off advertisements but still be integrated with conversations in global. In my opinion, its a cool feature and useful to people who dont want to see ads, but still want to talk to the community.
~ @Jalapenos

-1
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~ @NuckleMuckle

Alright, you two have a good point. I have to admit, I haven't thought about the toggle option. So that's a purpose for the trade chat. You can toggle it off. Doesn't change the fact that half of the time people still advertise in /g and the only one who cares is staff (from what I've seen).

Jalapenos

Yeah. It's also a factor that while other people may care, it's not their place to enforce it. It's staff job to moderate this stuff so you will see us a bit more involved. Also, we have received a good sum of complaints about people disregarding trade chat. What sucks is that half of you guys want one thing, and the other half want another.

CaveSpiderSam

It's staff job to moderate this stuff so you will see us a bit more involved.
~ @Jalapenos

So, one of the main reasons this exists is so that staff can be pedants and pointlessly reprimand newbies for advertising in global?
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Dockson

Yeah. It's also a factor that while other people may care, it's not their place to enforce it. It's staff job to moderate this stuff so you will see us a bit more involved. Also, we have received a good sum of complaints about people disregarding trade chat. What sucks is that half of you guys want one thing, and the other half want another.
~ @Jalapenos

I've been around for a year and half (4 months inactive) and I've seen people begging for /gtoggle numerous times. Never haven I seen anyone ask for a trade chat. Ever.

Also, saying that moderating this will make you seem more involved is just so wrong. That's the wrong kind of involved. I don't want to see "Stop that" 's "Watch your language" 's "Use the trade chat" 's etc., that's not being involved, that's doing a thing a clever plugin could do or if you will, a robot.

TwistedGabe

Jalapenos

I've been around for a year and half (4 months inactive) and I've seen people begging for /gtoggle numerous times. Never haven I seen anyone ask for a trade chat. Ever.
Also, saying that moderating this will make you seem more involved is just so wrong. That's the wrong kind of involved. I don't want to see "Stop that" 's "Watch your language" 's "Use the trade chat" 's etc., that's not being involved, that's doing a thing a clever plugin could do or if you will, a robot.
~ @Dockson

People have asked for not only tr chat, but additions to it on the forums. It has been suggested many times.

You said others seem they don't seem to care but past suggestions and comments prove they do. Staff are here to enforce the rules whether or not they seem more involved because of this is all opinion.

Truth here is that there are two sides, each of which wanting different things. If I were going to be honest with you I don't see trade chat being removed anywhere in the near future. A compromise here may be more succesful than a large change, if you could think of one.

Summers

Once we get rid of trade chat you will al start complaining about the advertisements in shout and the constant spam from players.
Trade chat prevents you from having to see all of the constant spam advertisements from other players of you would not like to. Huge -1

Draqq

Once we get rid of trade chat you will al start complaining about the advertisements in shout and the constant spam from players.
Trade chat prevents you from having to see all of the constant spam advertisements from other players of you would not like to. Huge -1
~ @Summers

Never in my whole time on this server have I saw someone actually complain about general advertisements in global, although now; the staffs fix for something that wasn't really an issue in the first place has now only caused more complaining with the constant spam from staff telling players to use the trade chat.

but again,

Although my question for the staff is what exactly do they want to see in global chat?
~ @Draqq

Summers

Never in my whole time on this server have I saw someone actually complain about general advertisements in global, although now; the staffs fix for something that wasn't really an issue in the first place has now only caused more complaining with the constant spam from staff telling players to use the trade chat.
but again,
~ @Draqq

Many many players complained about spam in chat before /trade chat was introduced, that is the whole purpose of use making a separate chat that CAN BE TOGGLED (key words). I have no idea why you want shout chat to be filled with /lotto buy 20 win the 180k with only 6k, Come to /pwarp store for many cool and neato items, Holding a rank giveaway (huge link that takes up 3 lines of text). No, we will not remove a chat channel that removes spam that many many people complained about.

fasehed

It makes it so that you can toggle off advertisements but still be integrated with conversations in global. In my opinion, its a cool feature and useful to people who dont want to see ads, but still want to talk to the community.
~ @Jalapenos

I was against trade chat until I realised I can do /ttoggle