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RoyalTea

I honestly don't know why swearing is banned, and I don't get why poo's synonyme and ''donkey'' is even conisdered swearing. But as people are starting to use this thread as a debate of wether swearing is good or not, I'll just make a debate for this so this specific thread isn't derailed too much (and to attract more people as this might be one of the more interesting debates).

Link to the debate thread:
http://meepcraft.com/threads/swearing.49823/

dragon8877

-1 swearing has no decent place in any form of communication. I may add more reasoning later.
~ @Deljikho

Well that can be debated. Swear words were created because they either A) Have a past to them that makes them bad (the n word for example) or B) They're extremely strong words with multiple meanings(the B-word originates from how a female dog in heat will do anything to procreate with another male animal). Now, I'm arguing that there are places where you need to use swear words, not that the server needs them (I could care less). For example, if you encounter gang members (or people with a highly diminished vocabulary) not using curse words will actually tick them off (experience from Corpus Christi Texas, don't go there, the Mexican Mafia is there and they're jerks), so in that scenario, you may need to use curse words so you don't get shot.

Dat_Coffee

If you have the need to curse; you're an ignorant human being. I probably curse more than you all
~ @Deinen

Gratz on calling yourself ignorant

Deinen

Gratz on calling yourself ignorant
~ @Dat_Coffee

I have no need, I choose to do it. When I am in situations where it is not appropriate - I don't curse, I don't expect them to change their rules, I simply respect that situation.

Deljikho

Thank you @dragon8877 for sorting that out. I would agree that in some certain threatening situations there may actually be a need for swearing. Even to a point of being considered decent depending on the situation. Also I appreciate that you pointed out how swear words are formed. That's helped me see it in a 'new light'. :)

For the topic of Meepcraft; swearing holds no decent position. Unlike most of you it seems, I do not swear. I won't do it on TS, I won't do it around my friends, it's very rare for a swear word to slip from my mouth. I believe that there is a plethora of words to use rather than curse words. I suggest that anyone having a hard time coming up with some words use thesaurus.com. It'll help expand anyones vocabulary. There actually are words better suited to convey emotions than swearing..

I'm not sure why the swear rule is in place, I'm sure there are many reasons to it. I've figured that it's more than to 'protect kids'. Often when you give someone an inch they take a mile. You allow swear words and players use it to a point that it becomes banned again. They are constantly pushing a line between legal and illegal. This is what causes the formulation of our current policy as is.

I believe by setting reasonable guidelines Meep is able to foster a better communtiy. I don't think we need players that feel they need to curse and swear so often that they would rather quit than simply not swear. I am constantly talking to players when I am online. Never have I felt that anyone has been in a position to justifiably swear while playing on Meep.

Just my opinion

TNT404

No, this argument is ignorant. There is no need to curse, you just want to, but you cannot, and it makes you mad. Too bad, there are a lot of places where cursing is not appropriate. I don't see any of you petitioning outside any churches about how you should be allowed to just curse in there.
Grow up, really. You can't curse, oh well, use another word - We have like, an entire dictionary full of them.
It doesn't matter why you cannot curse. Again, I'm sure most of the adult population also doesn't want to see a bunch of pre-teens and teen children cursing all day and night, because that is what will happen.
It doesn't matter how many words you use, or how you put them together, this argument will always be:
I want to curse
I can't curse
Let me curse
~ @Deinen

I don't go to Church. I wouldn't want to go if my Parents would take us. And I'm pretty sure I'm not doing the talking there.

You're telling me to grow up? I use more than a few words that aren't "Normal" but it's so much easier and a lot more accurate to use that.

So you're saying that since a few adults don't want it, and define it inappropriate, it shouldn't be done? That seems awfully like arrogance. It may well be what happens, but that is the internet... It tends to happen that way, and yet it will still be better moderated than like ROBLOX or just about any other Multiplayer game.

Those last three lines explain every suggestion ever and have no merit what so ever.

Adam34falcon

-1

_Rigel

I agree that this server is starting to act a hell lot more childish than two years ago (been here for three years nearly). Yes, swearing ain't the nicest thing, but it's not always swearing. It's the internet, and plus, aren't we all meant to be 13+ because of US rules?
hmmmmmmm

RoyalTea

I agree that this server is starting to act a hell lot more childish than two years ago (been here for three years nearly). Yes, swearing ain't the nicest thing, but it's not always swearing. It's the internet, and plus, aren't we all meant to be 13+ because of US rules?
hmmmmmmm
~ @_Rigel

The server hasn't really changed that much, but it might have become a little bit stricter over the years, but at the same time you grow older, so even if the server didn't change it would look more childish to you.

Adam34falcon

You are one of our youngest members, do you know swear words?

Of course.

Jiltism

I don't go to Church. I wouldn't want to go if my Parents would take us. And I'm pretty sure I'm not doing the talking there.
You're telling me to grow up? I use more than a few words that aren't "Normal" but it's so much easier and a lot more accurate to use that.
So you're saying that since a few adults don't want it, and define it inappropriate, it shouldn't be done? That seems awfully like arrogance. It may well be what happens, but that is the internet... It tends to happen that way, and yet it will still be better moderated than like ROBLOX or just about any other Multiplayer game.
Those last three lines explain every suggestion ever and have no merit what so ever.
~ @TNT404

It actually is "inapropriate."

Imagine:
You are a waiter.
A customer asks: "How are the fish tacos?"
You respond: "It's some good s***."
You would be fired.

That does not give a good representation of the restuarant you work for.

I realize that the internet will be the internet. I have my moments where a curse word slips out. But, there are so so so so so many other words you can use to portray your feelings. Take it to teamspeak; take it to skype. MeepCraft is family friendly to attract a crowd of all ages; in the end, promoting more business.

Dat_Coffee

MeepCraft is family friendly to attract a crowd of all ages; in the end, promoting more business.
~ @Jiltism

Being family friendly just makes a bunch of toxic annoying 9-year olds join the server.

Muunkee

Imagine:
You are a waiter.
A customer asks: "How are the fish tacos?"
You respond: "It's some good s***."
You would be fired.
~ @Jiltism

A customer asks: "How are the fish tacos?"
~ @Jiltism

I'm not sure if you meant to do that or not but I laughed so hard.

metr0n0me

1) "damn" and "hell" are allowed.
2) I don't understand where we would draw the line between "occasional f*** s***" and "too much swearing." It would leave a bunch of subjectivity in the rules, and it would be insanely hard to moderate as we'd have to count how many times a given player curses in a given period of time.

I mean, I curse all the time in real life, I have 3 language bans and countless kicks, but I don't really feel any need to curse [anymore] in game--though I generally don't kick/ban for it.

TL;DR It would be really hard to moderate, and the lack of a dividing line between acceptable and unacceptable would become a problem.

Kling

I don't find that there is a necessary need to swear in game for example:
For ____ someone has destroyed my house.

When you could just well say:
Wow someone has destroyed my house..

You may swear by reaction in real life but why would there be a necessary need to type it in game?
I don't see the point, yeah I curse from time to time when I'm hurt for instance but there is no need to type into a game now is there?

-1

Jiltism

Being family friendly just makes a bunch of toxic annoying 9-year olds join the server.
~ @Dat_Coffee

That's with most communities. COD is a mature game; at the moment, it's flooded with British 11 year olds. I'm a huge part of the Destiny community. That game is ruled by 9 year olds, and it's rated teen.

Videogames321

I learned curse words when I was 8 from my friends.
Does it mean I use it often?
In real life, a bit- sometimes a large amount when I'm angry.
Here, there's no big deal as to why they should be allowed, even in minor situations. I'm fine with some minor swearing in game, but others most likely won't. When the staff make up a new rule, some random player breaks it and argues that they didn't break it because "they didn't do it excessively".
-1, current rules are fine as it is- I don't see the need for you to swear up a storm.

_Rigel

Being family friendly just makes a bunch of toxic annoying 9-year olds join the server.
~ @Dat_Coffee

Good point actually +1

TNT404

I learned curse words when I was 8 from my friends.
Does it mean I use it often?
In real life, a bit- sometimes a large amount when I'm angry.
Here, there's no big deal as to why they should be allowed, even in minor situations. I'm fine with some minor swearing in game, but others most likely won't. When the staff make up a new rule, some random player breaks it and argues that they didn't break it because "they didn't do it excessively".
-1, current rules are fine as it is- I don't see the need for you to swear up a storm.
~ @Videogames321

I didn't suggest having the "Excessive swearing" limit thing.

I don't find that there is a necessary need to swear in game for example:
For ____ someone has destroyed my house.
When you could just well say:
Wow someone has destroyed my house..
You may swear by reaction in real life but why would there be a necessary need to type it in game?
I don't see the point, yeah I curse from time to time when I'm hurt for instance but there is no need to type into a game now is there?
-1
~ @Kling

That's the most legitimate argument I've seen against this. But why must people need to use chat if there is TS to talk with?

It actually is "inapropriate."
Imagine:
You are a waiter.
A customer asks: "How are the fish tacos?"
You respond: "It's some good s***."
You would be fired.
That does not give a good representation of the restuarant you work for.
I realize that the internet will be the internet. I have my moments where a curse word slips out. But, there are so so so so so many other words you can use to portray your feelings. Take it to teamspeak; take it to skype. MeepCraft is family friendly to attract a crowd of all ages; in the end, promoting more business.
~ @Jiltism

Public Service is irrelevant to this.

Most people aren't going to look at a server on whether or not people are swearing.

Why use chat at all if there is TS.

Dat_Coffee

Why use chat at all if there is TS.
~ @TNT404

Because not everyone has Teamspeak, some people that don't aren't willing to get it, some people don't like to have other people hear their voice, and some people just like typing more than talking.

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