increase the time between clear lag passes

Empoleon_master

Now that I am not tired and it is not 3 am I can better type what my brain is trying to say. (holy crap I must stop posting after 1 am).

Clear lag goes off way too much, (read 6.5 minutes), and this takes up way too much of player's time not really doing anything, just waiting for a system that removes next to no lag/stray entities to pass.

I am suggesting that clear lag instead goes off every 30 minutes and/or automatically when there are over (not under) 200 entities as that would be a number that could actually effect the server, not just 20-70 some odd entities, to stop creating as much lag and down time as it currently does.

I really want to stop doing whatever I am doing to wait for clear lag to pass as it could eat stray iron etc I'm mining or whatever I could lose progress/items on.

leodavinci9000

I see there's no "no" option in the poll

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I think 6 minutes is long enough. While it is true that it usually only gets 20-50 entities, there will also be times where there need to be 100+ entities cleared. Also, if it clears automatically at 200+ entities, what could happen is that a guy is giving the other guy God stuff, but it ends up getting swallowed because it just hit 200 entities.

Empoleon_master

I see there's no "no" option in the poll
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I think 6 minutes is long enough. While it is true that it usually only gets 20-50 entities, there will also be times where there need to be 100+ entities cleared. Also, if it clears automatically at 200+ entities, what could happen is that a guy is giving the other guy God stuff, but it ends up getting swallowed because it just hit 200 entities.
~ @leodavinci9000

By clears auto matically I mean it starts the 60 second cool down for clear lag.

Also the last 10 seconds or so of clear lag generates equals to more lag than the 20 or so entities on their own.

Deinen

I will ask Onis or Fuzzlr, as they know more about exactly how many items begin to cause lag, if something can be done, maybe it will be :)

Empoleon_master

I will ask Onis or Fuzzlr, as they know more about exactly how many items begin to cause lag, if something can be done, maybe it will be :)
~ @Deinen

Thank you, it just gets super annoying when you're at a grinder that you need items for or mining and have to stop and look around for a while to make sure you didn't miss anything.

iiwars

No, the server tells you twice that entities are going to be cleared. Learn to be more wary.

Empoleon_master

No, the server tells you twice that entities are going to be cleared. Learn to be more wary.
~ @iiwars

The issue here is not that it does not go off without warning but that it goes off way too much, while barely removing that many entities.

iiwars

The issue here is not that it does not go off without warning but that it goes off way too much, while barely removing that many entities.
~ @Empoleon_master

When I'm on in alpha it clears like 1300+ items.

OhSimple

Perfect as is it.

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iiwars

Perfect as is it.
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~ @OhSimple

Can anyone argue with you when you have that profile picture?

OhSimple

Can anyone argue with you when you have that profile picture?
~ @iiwars

Empoleon_master

When I'm on in alpha it clears like 1300+ items.
~ @iiwars

When I'm on in alpha at 10 pm-1 am it only clears like 20-80 entities and the only lag it clears is clear lag stopping after it has caused lag when it removes entities.

Jwarian

i don't know if people know this but the basic 5 minute item removal feature of minecraft still applies on this server, lengthening clear lag would do jack squat.

currently clear lag runs about every ~6 minutes for me in beta when i have done testing, meaning I've thrown items down right after clearlag and lost them due to the basic principles of minecraft after ~5 minutes.

sorry but once again the clearlag interval is already long enough, any longer and the basic 5 minute rule starts becoming the culprit, and changing the basics of the game seems a bit excessive when all that is required is a proper memory.

Empoleon_master

i don't know if people know this but the basic 5 minute item removal feature of minecraft still applies on this server, lengthening clear lag would do jack squat.
currently clear lag runs about every ~6 minutes for me in beta when i have done testing, meaning I've thrown items down right after clearlag and lost them due to the basic principles of minecraft after ~5 minutes.
sorry but once again the clearlag interval is already long enough, any longer and the basic 5 minute rule starts becoming the culprit, and changing the basics of the game seems a bit excessive when all that is required is a proper memory.
~ @Jwarian

My problem is not the basic principal of the 5 minute entity wipes it's the inibility to do anything for a full minute every 6 minutes for fear of having the stuff that drops get removed with no way to get it back.

Jwarian

My problem is not the basic principal of the 5 minute entity wipes it's the inibility to do anything for a full minute every 6 minutes for fear of having the stuff that drops get removed with no way to get it back.
~ @Empoleon_master

but this could all be remedied if you just press /, and look for the warning messages.....
i don't know what you're arguing for now, you said longer clearlag interval, i say its pointless because its already greater than the core minecraft mechanic, then you say you're panic stricken for one minute? it seems you are arguing against clearlag all together?

iiwars

but this could all be remedied if you just press /, and look for the warning messages.....
i don't know what you're arguing for now, you said longer clearlag interval, i say its pointless because its already greater than the core minecraft mechanic, then you say you're panic stricken for one minute? it seems you are arguing against clearlag all together?
~ @Jwarian

I vote to set it to 4 minutes and 59 seconds.

Empoleon_master

but this could all be remedied if you just press /, and look for the warning messages.....
i don't know what you're arguing for now, you said longer clearlag interval, i say its pointless because its already greater than the core minecraft mechanic, then you say you're panic stricken for one minute? it seems you are arguing against clearlag all together?
~ @Jwarian

I am arguing that removing the stupidly small amount of entities this much is useless and that it should either go off rarely and/or only when there's an amount of entities that would actually cause a noticible amount of lag.

And before you say omg it's just the regular minecraft entity wipe, let me remind you of the thousands upon thousands of god sets/valuable stuff that gets wiped because clear lag went off just as they died...only to remove 38 entities + the stuff they lost that could easily be retrieved had it not gone off.

I'm all for getting meebles out of the eco, but I don't think the server spamming clearlag every 6 minutes to remove little in the way of items an generally annoy players with doing nothing for that time period is the right way to do it.

iiwars

I am arguing that removing the stupidly small amount of entities this much is useless and that it should either go off rarely and/or only when there's an amount of entities that would actually cause a noticible amount of lag.
And before you say omg it's just the regular minecraft entity wipe, let me remind you of the thousands upon thousands of god sets/valuable stuff that gets wiped because clear lag went off just as they died...only to remove 38 entities + the stuff they lost that could easily be retrieved had it not gone off.
I'm all for getting meebles out of the eco, but I don't think the server spamming clearlag every 6 minutes to remove little in the way of items an generally annoy players with doing nothing for that time period is the right way to do it.
~ @Empoleon_master

Can't be more annoying than the old vote thing. Reminding you to vote every 30 seconds. Even if you voted.

Empoleon_master

Can't be more annoying than the old vote thing. Reminding you to vote every 30 seconds. Even if you voted.
~ @iiwars

Did the old voting thing have the real possibility of you losing say parts of a beacon you're removing, or wiping items that are on the ground because you broke a chest?

iiwars

Did the old voting thing have the real possibility of you losing say parts of a beacon you're removing, or wiping items that are on the ground because you broke a chest?
~ @Empoleon_master

Like I said, be more wary you freakin noob.